Received: from localhost (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267A59FA312 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 05:01:59 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41481-05 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 05:01:53 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from svr2.hagander.net (svr2.hagander.net [88.198.128.226]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1CD9FA19A for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 05:01:55 -0400 (AST) Received: from svr2.hagander.net (svr2.hagander.net [88.198.128.226]) by svr2.hagander.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6476DCC3D1; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:01:53 +0100 (CET) Received: by svr2.hagander.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CF2BBDCC3D4; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:01:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:01:53 +0100 From: Magnus Hagander To: "Joshua D. Drake" Cc: josh@agliodbs.com, pgsql-www@postgresql.org, Devrim GUNDUZ Subject: Re: Switching to mailman (Re: [Fwd: NDN: Re: [ODBC] Connect without queries?]) Message-ID: <20070206090153.GI6515@svr2.hagander.net> References: <45C388B4.4010407@commandprompt.com> <1170713191.3056.34.camel@laptop.gunduz.org> <200702051417.53383.josh@agliodbs.com> <45C7C5EC.9040503@commandprompt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45C7C5EC.9040503@commandprompt.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200702/87 X-Sequence-Number: 11492 On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 04:03:56PM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: > > Devrim, > > > >> With Mailman, we will have a better web interface, human-controllable > >> web interface. Also we can have more people to administrate the mailing > >> lists. It also has an e-mail interface so that people, who does not want > >> to use web interface for moderation issues, can use it. > > > > Actually, I personally find the web interface for majordomo much easier to > > use than Mailman. And I do both for pgfoundry and postgresql.org. For > > one thing, the mailman interface has a tendency to force you to re-log-in > > repeatedly, which is really annoying. Also, it has no way to do "discard > > all e-mails in moderation queue"; you *have* to do them one at a time. > > Yes mailman is kind of a pain for that but honestly, if the only gripe > is that we need to enter a password more than once... we must really > consider how lazy we have become. Well, the whole idea to switch came up this time for just that reason - just a different kind of lazy that time. I'm more concerned that we seem to be hitting a *lot* of bugs in mj2 that nobody else has seen, which tells me that not a lot of people are using it. The mj2 stuff is obviously a lot less active than mailman. For example, the only webpage I can fnid about it hasn't been updated in 7 years. But obviously it *is* being maintained in some way, since Marc is in contact with their people. But the question is how much... //Magnus