From jd@commandprompt.com Tue Jun 2 07:12:50 2026 Received: from localhost (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54489FB7E6 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:47:42 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 47509-10 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:47:34 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-254.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.254]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74939FB4DC for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:47:38 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (or-67-76-146-141.sta.embarqhsd.net [67.76.146.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1R0lfe2014005 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:47:41 -0800 Message-ID: <45E37FC3.4060400@commandprompt.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:48:03 -0800 From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PostgreSQL WWW Subject: update to main page for feature freeze X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.5, clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (lists.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:47:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200702/250 X-Sequence-Number: 11655 Index: index.html =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/cvsroot/pgweb/portal/template/index.html,v retrieving revision 1.87 diff -c -r1.87 index.html *** index.html 18 Feb 2007 19:14:16 -0000 1.87 --- index.html 27 Feb 2007 00:47:02 -0000 *************** *** 6,18 ****

! func_lang("PostgreSQL 8.2 Released")

! func_lang("The PostgreSQL Global Development Group is proud to announce the release of PostgreSQL 8.2, the world's most advanced open source database. View the release notes for more information.")

--- 6,18 ----

! func_lang("Feature Freeze for 8.3 almost here!")

! func_lang("The PostgreSQL Global Development Group is close to Feature Freeze for their 8.3 release. Read the developer FAQ for more information on how to contribute. You can also view our Developer Wiki for more information on the exciting upcoming release.")

-- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ From xzilla@users.sourceforge.net Tue Jun 2 07:12:50 2026 Received: from localhost (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85229FBAFB for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:14:02 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29241-04 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:13:45 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net (vms040pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.40]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96BE9FBAF5 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:13:51 -0400 (AST) Received: from new-host.home ([71.166.59.121]) by vms040.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JE400M9TT6MI4I0@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:13:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:13:17 -0500 From: Robert Treat Subject: Re: update to main page for feature freeze In-reply-to: <45E37FC3.4060400@commandprompt.com> To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Cc: "Joshua D. Drake" Message-id: <200702271213.18592.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <45E37FC3.4060400@commandprompt.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200702/271 X-Sequence-Number: 11676 On Monday 26 February 2007 19:48, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Index: index.html > =================================================================== > RCS file: /usr/local/cvsroot/pgweb/portal/template/index.html,v > retrieving revision 1.87 > diff -c -r1.87 index.html > *** index.html 18 Feb 2007 19:14:16 -0000 1.87 > --- index.html 27 Feb 2007 00:47:02 -0000 > *************** > *** 6,18 **** >
>
>

> ! func_lang("PostgreSQL 8.2 Released") >

>

> ! func_lang("The PostgreSQL Global Development Group > is proud to announce the release of PostgreSQL 8.2, the world's most > advanced open source database. View the href=\"/docs/current/static/release-8-2.html\">release notes for > more information.") >

> >
>
> --- 6,18 ---- >
>
>

> ! func_lang("Feature Freeze for 8.3 almost here!") >

>

> ! func_lang("The PostgreSQL Global Development Group > is close to Feature Freeze for their 8.3 release. Read the href=\"/docs/faqs.FAQ_DEV.html\">developer FAQ for more information > on how to contribute. You can also view our href=\"http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/Todo:WishlistFor83\">Devel >oper Wiki for more information on the exciting upcoming release.") >

> >
>
I don't feel this change is neccessary. People who are developing patches probably have a good idea when feature freeze is, and we have more than enough patches to deal with right now. For regular users, pointers to download is one of the top items they need, so emphsizing our recent releases is still a good idea. -- Robert Treat Build A Brighter LAMP :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL From jd@commandprompt.com Tue Jun 2 07:12:50 2026 Received: from localhost (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323C99FB34E for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:26:35 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54067-02-5 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:26:26 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-254.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.254]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BEC9FBC0C for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:26:25 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (or-67-76-146-141.sta.embarqhsd.net [67.76.146.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1RHQQwf011766 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:26:26 -0800 Message-ID: <45E469DB.3060501@commandprompt.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:26:51 -0800 From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Treat CC: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: update to main page for feature freeze References: <45E37FC3.4060400@commandprompt.com> <200702271213.18592.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> In-Reply-To: <200702271213.18592.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.5, clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (lists.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:26:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.015 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, BAYES_50, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200702/272 X-Sequence-Number: 11677 > > I don't feel this change is neccessary. People who are developing patches > probably have a good idea when feature freeze is, and we have more than > enough patches to deal with right now. For regular users, pointers to > download is one of the top items they need, so emphsizing our recent releases > is still a good idea. This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us. Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL. Our website doesn't say *anything* about what is going on with PostgreSQL the project (says alot about secondary stuff like training etc..) A website is two things, an information source and a marketing source. Joshua D. Drake -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ From josh@agliodbs.com Tue Jun 2 07:12:50 2026 Received: from localhost (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80179FBB6C for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:55:43 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05290-04 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:55:40 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from davinci.ethosmedia.com (server227.ethosmedia.com [209.128.84.227]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A8C9FB66B for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:55:39 -0400 (AST) X-EthosMedia-Virus-Scanned: no infections found Received: from [63.195.55.98] (account josh@agliodbs.com HELO spooky.sf.agliodbs.com) by davinci.ethosmedia.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 11532547; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:59:38 -0800 From: Josh Berkus Organization: PostgreSQL @ Sun To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: update to main page for feature freeze Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:55:46 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 Cc: "Joshua D. Drake" , Robert Treat References: <45E37FC3.4060400@commandprompt.com> <200702271213.18592.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> <45E469DB.3060501@commandprompt.com> In-Reply-To: <45E469DB.3060501@commandprompt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702270955.46781.josh@agliodbs.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.113 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, BAYES_50, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200702/274 X-Sequence-Number: 11679 All, > This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us. > Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only > reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on > the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL. "Current Development Status: Orange" Oh, wait, that's the wrong sort of alert. ;-) Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it: March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze May-June 2007 Beta begins August-October 2007 8.3 Released March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative) -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco From jd@commandprompt.com Tue Jun 2 07:12:50 2026 Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EBE9FB861 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:59:58 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 51990-04 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:59:54 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-254.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.254]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419519FBC48 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:59:53 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (or-67-76-146-141.sta.embarqhsd.net [67.76.146.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1RHxqi4012943 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:59:53 -0800 Message-ID: <45E471B6.1060704@commandprompt.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:00:22 -0800 From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Berkus CC: pgsql-www@postgresql.org, Robert Treat Subject: Re: update to main page for feature freeze References: <45E37FC3.4060400@commandprompt.com> <200702271213.18592.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> <45E469DB.3060501@commandprompt.com> <200702270955.46781.josh@agliodbs.com> In-Reply-To: <200702270955.46781.josh@agliodbs.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.5, clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (lists.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:59:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.017 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, BAYES_50, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200702/276 X-Sequence-Number: 11681 Josh Berkus wrote: > All, > >> This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us. >> Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only >> reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on >> the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL. > > "Current Development Status: Orange" Rock ON! That would be funny. Let's do it. (and I am only half kidding). > > Oh, wait, that's the wrong sort of alert. ;-) It isn't about alerting, it is about informing. Which is a bit different. > > Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information > on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it: > > March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze > May-June 2007 Beta begins > August-October 2007 8.3 Released > March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative) Actually combined with the change to the front page that says feature freeze is almost upon us, I could live with this. Joshua D. Drake > > > -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ From dpage@postgresql.org Tue Jun 2 07:12:50 2026 Received: from localhost (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555349FB2CF for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:06:24 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 77540-05 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:06:17 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from developer.pgadmin.org (developer.pgadmin.org [63.246.23.140]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C456D9FB1FB for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:06:16 -0400 (AST) Received: from [172.16.0.68] ([89.241.201.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by developer.pgadmin.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1RJde1F031391 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:39:41 GMT Message-ID: <45E48F33.1070805@postgresql.org> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:06:11 +0000 From: Dave Page User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joshua D. Drake" CC: Josh Berkus , pgsql-www@postgresql.org, Robert Treat Subject: Re: update to main page for feature freeze References: <45E37FC3.4060400@commandprompt.com> <200702271213.18592.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> <45E469DB.3060501@commandprompt.com> <200702270955.46781.josh@agliodbs.com> <45E471B6.1060704@commandprompt.com> In-Reply-To: <45E471B6.1060704@commandprompt.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 OpenPGP: url=http://www.pgadmin.org/pgp/davepage.pgp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.117 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, BAYES_50, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200702/281 X-Sequence-Number: 11686 Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: >> All, >> >>> This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us. >>> Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only >>> reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on >>> the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL. >> "Current Development Status: Orange" > > Rock ON! OMG - in an instant my mental picture of you just changed to Justin Lee Collins. That can't be good :-) /D From bruce@momjian.us Tue Jun 2 07:12:50 2026 Received: from localhost (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889CA9FB9B3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:35:59 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16431-05 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:35:46 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from momjian.us (momjian.us [70.90.9.53]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE54D9FB320 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:35:55 -0400 (AST) Received: (from bruce@localhost) by momjian.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id l1RMZsc18693; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:35:54 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200702272235.l1RMZsc18693@momjian.us> Subject: Re: update to main page for feature freeze In-Reply-To: <200702270955.46781.josh@agliodbs.com> To: Josh Berkus Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:35:54 -0500 (EST) CC: pgsql-www@postgresql.org, "Joshua D. Drake" , Robert Treat X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL123] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200702/282 X-Sequence-Number: 11687 Josh Berkus wrote: > All, > > > This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us. > > Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only > > reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on > > the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL. > > "Current Development Status: Orange" > > Oh, wait, that's the wrong sort of alert. ;-) > > Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information > on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it: > > March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze > May-June 2007 Beta begins > August-October 2007 8.3 Released > March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative) It would be good if you matched the information in the developer's FAQ:

The development schedule for the 8.3 release is:

March 1, 2007
Initial community review of all major feature patches
April 1, 2007
Feature freeze, all patches must be submitted for review and application
mid-May, 2007
All patches applied, beta testing begins
July, 2007
Release of 8.3.0
-- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + From jd@commandprompt.com Tue Jun 2 07:12:50 2026 Received: from localhost (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C179FBAC9 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:43:44 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25803-08 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:43:31 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-254.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.254]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30FD9FB9B3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:43:40 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (or-67-76-146-141.sta.embarqhsd.net [67.76.146.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1RMhYiq021269 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:43:35 -0800 Message-ID: <45E4B433.2000308@commandprompt.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:44:03 -0800 From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Momjian CC: Josh Berkus , pgsql-www@postgresql.org, Robert Treat Subject: Re: update to main page for feature freeze References: <200702272235.l1RMZsc18693@momjian.us> In-Reply-To: <200702272235.l1RMZsc18693@momjian.us> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.5, clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (lists.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:43:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200702/283 X-Sequence-Number: 11688 Bruce Momjian wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: >> All, >> >>> This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us. >>> Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only >>> reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on >>> the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL. >> "Current Development Status: Orange" >> >> Oh, wait, that's the wrong sort of alert. ;-) >> >> Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information >> on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it: >> >> March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze >> May-June 2007 Beta begins >> August-October 2007 8.3 Released >> March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative) > > It would be good if you matched the information in the developer's FAQ: I didn't even know it was there. I will be happy to adjust. Joshua D. Drake > >

The development schedule for the 8.3 release is:

>
>
March 1, 2007
>
Initial community review of all major feature patches
>
April 1, 2007
>
Feature freeze, all patches must be submitted for review and application
>
mid-May, 2007
>
All patches applied, beta testing begins
>
July, 2007
>
Release of 8.3.0
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> -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ From bruce@momjian.us Tue Jun 2 07:12:50 2026 Received: from localhost (maia-2.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECDB9FBAD0 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:45:11 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 99668-03 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:44:56 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from momjian.us (momjian.us [70.90.9.53]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F139FB9B3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:44:59 -0400 (AST) Received: (from bruce@localhost) by momjian.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id l1RMiuD19924; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:44:56 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200702272244.l1RMiuD19924@momjian.us> Subject: Re: update to main page for feature freeze In-Reply-To: <45E4B433.2000308@commandprompt.com> To: "Joshua D. Drake" Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:44:56 -0500 (EST) CC: Josh Berkus , pgsql-www@postgresql.org, Robert Treat X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL123] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.075 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, BAYES_50, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200702/284 X-Sequence-Number: 11689 Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Josh Berkus wrote: > >> All, > >> > >>> This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us. > >>> Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only > >>> reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on > >>> the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL. > >> "Current Development Status: Orange" > >> > >> Oh, wait, that's the wrong sort of alert. ;-) > >> > >> Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information > >> on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it: > >> > >> March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze > >> May-June 2007 Beta begins > >> August-October 2007 8.3 Released > >> March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative) > > > > It would be good if you matched the information in the developer's FAQ: > > I didn't even know it was there. I will be happy to adjust. Well, the fact you didn't know it was there indicates there is a problem. Hopefully having it on the web site will fix that. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + From jd@commandprompt.com Tue Jun 2 07:12:50 2026 Received: from localhost (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC469FBA1C for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:51:23 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31109-06 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:51:10 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-254.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.254]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EAF9FB35D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:51:19 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (or-67-76-146-141.sta.embarqhsd.net [67.76.146.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1RMpC3p021544 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:51:12 -0800 Message-ID: <45E4B5FC.4050902@commandprompt.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:51:40 -0800 From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Momjian CC: Josh Berkus , pgsql-www@postgresql.org, Robert Treat Subject: Re: update to main page for feature freeze References: <200702272244.l1RMiuD19924@momjian.us> In-Reply-To: <200702272244.l1RMiuD19924@momjian.us> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.5, clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (lists.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:51:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200702/285 X-Sequence-Number: 11690 Bruce Momjian wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> Bruce Momjian wrote: >>> Josh Berkus wrote: >>>> All, >>>> >>>>> This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us. >>>>> Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only >>>>> reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on >>>>> the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL. >>>> "Current Development Status: Orange" >>>> >>>> Oh, wait, that's the wrong sort of alert. ;-) >>>> >>>> Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information >>>> on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it: >>>> >>>> March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze >>>> May-June 2007 Beta begins >>>> August-October 2007 8.3 Released >>>> March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative) >>> It would be good if you matched the information in the developer's FAQ: >> I didn't even know it was there. I will be happy to adjust. > > Well, the fact you didn't know it was there indicates there is a > problem. Hopefully having it on the web site will fix that. Well I may or may not be an exception but I can say that I would never have thought to look in the FAQ for that info. It is entirely possible that, I wouldn't think of that because of the rather up to my ears I am in all of this every day. I would prefer to hear what others think about whether or not the FAQ is a place to hold it. Although! In the FAQ it would probably make more sense to have 1.19) What is the timeline for the next major PostgreSQL release? Point to /developer/roadmap :) Joshua D. Drake -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ From magnus@hagander.net Tue Jun 2 07:12:50 2026 Received: from localhost (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C2E9FB309 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:12:27 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44111-02 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:12:19 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from svr2.hagander.net (svr2.hagander.net [88.198.128.226]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDADC9FB251 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:12:23 -0400 (AST) Received: from svr2.hagander.net (svr2.hagander.net [88.198.128.226]) by svr2.hagander.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E7FDCC5ED; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:12:22 +0100 (CET) Received: by svr2.hagander.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F1E5CDCC645; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:12:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:12:21 +0100 From: Magnus Hagander To: Bruce Momjian Cc: "Joshua D. Drake" , Josh Berkus , pgsql-www@postgresql.org, Robert Treat Subject: Re: update to main page for feature freeze Message-ID: <20070305131221.GA15772@svr2.hagander.net> References: <45E4B433.2000308@commandprompt.com> <200702272244.l1RMiuD19924@momjian.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200702272244.l1RMiuD19924@momjian.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.063 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, BAYES_50 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200703/4 X-Sequence-Number: 11701 On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 05:44:56PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Josh Berkus wrote: > > >> All, > > >> > > >> Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information > > >> on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it: > > >> > > >> March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze > > >> May-June 2007 Beta begins > > >> August-October 2007 8.3 Released > > >> March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative) > > > > > > It would be good if you matched the information in the developer's FAQ: > > > > I didn't even know it was there. I will be happy to adjust. > > Well, the fact you didn't know it was there indicates there is a > problem. Hopefully having it on the web site will fix that. Now that it is ont he website, may I humbly suggest that it is removed from the developer FAQ (possibly replaced with a reference to the website) so we don't risk ending up with two locations saying different things? //Magnus From bruce@momjian.us Tue Jun 2 07:12:50 2026 Received: from localhost (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B9F9FB2A7 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:05:22 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28972-01 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:05:13 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from momjian.us (momjian.us [70.90.9.53]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DE79FB1F4 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:05:11 -0400 (AST) Received: (from bruce@localhost) by momjian.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id l25I4wW18884; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:04:58 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200703051804.l25I4wW18884@momjian.us> Subject: Re: update to main page for feature freeze In-Reply-To: <20070305131221.GA15772@svr2.hagander.net> To: Magnus Hagander Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:04:58 -0500 (EST) CC: "Joshua D. Drake" , Josh Berkus , pgsql-www@postgresql.org, Robert Treat X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL123] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.075 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, BAYES_50, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200703/7 X-Sequence-Number: 11704 Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 05:44:56PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > Josh Berkus wrote: > > > >> All, > > > >> > > > >> Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information > > > >> on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it: > > > >> > > > >> March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze > > > >> May-June 2007 Beta begins > > > >> August-October 2007 8.3 Released > > > >> March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative) > > > > > > > > It would be good if you matched the information in the developer's FAQ: > > > > > > I didn't even know it was there. I will be happy to adjust. > > > > Well, the fact you didn't know it was there indicates there is a > > problem. Hopefully having it on the web site will fix that. > > Now that it is ont he website, may I humbly suggest that it is removed > from the developer FAQ (possibly replaced with a reference to the > website) so we don't risk ending up with two locations saying different > things? Removed from developer's FAQ. I never liked it there anyway because it is time-specific information, but because it seemed harder to add to the web site, I put in there until the web site was updated. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +