Received: from localhost (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006FB9FB5A4; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:29:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08411-03; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:29:26 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from momjian.us (momjian.us [70.90.9.53]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F38A9FB530; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:29:26 -0300 (ADT) Received: (from bruce@localhost) by momjian.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id l3UBSpb19888; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 07:28:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200704301128.l3UBSpb19888@momjian.us> Subject: Re: Feature freeze progress report In-Reply-To: <46352C6D.1020402@dunslane.net> To: Andrew Dunstan Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 07:28:51 -0400 (EDT) CC: Dave Page , Heikki Linnakangas , Simon Riggs , PostgreSQL-development X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL123] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200704/1237 X-Sequence-Number: 102570 Andrew Dunstan wrote: > I don't think we need a sync point. I think we need to get better at > setting expectations and at managing the patch queue so that it gets > drained better all the time. Nothing can be more frustrating for patch > authors than to have patches in the queue for a very long time. They > bitrot, and we sometime end up throwing curly questions at authors long > after the issues are hot in their minds. I'd like to see us set > ourselves some targets for handling patches. Something like: patches > held over from feature freeze from the previous release will be reviewed > within two months of the tree re-opening, and all other patches will be > reviewed within one month of being submitted. That implies that one > month after feature freeze the tree will only be open for bug fixes. Any > patches unapplied at that time would be held over. Maybe that would give > pgAdmin and friends enough head room to catch up. This is what already happens, and if it doesn't happen sometimes, it is just because people are too busy. Making arbitrary deadlines isn't going to help, partly because we have little control over our community. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +