Received: from localhost (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C719FB59D; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:30:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 62632-01-2; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:29:53 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from momjian.us (momjian.us [70.90.9.53]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A4C9FB5AD; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:29:57 -0300 (ADT) Received: (from bruce@localhost) by momjian.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id l3UBTsl20011; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 07:29:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200704301129.l3UBTsl20011@momjian.us> Subject: Re: Feature freeze progress report In-Reply-To: <13220.1177907466@sss.pgh.pa.us> To: Tom Lane Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 07:29:54 -0400 (EDT) CC: Dave Page , Heikki Linnakangas , Simon Riggs , PostgreSQL-development X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL123] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200704/1238 X-Sequence-Number: 102571 Tom Lane wrote: > Dave Page writes: > > I like the idea of having a sync point mid cycle, however, what I'd like > > to see even more is an improved system in which we put less pressure on > > the few committers we have, and give them more freedom to commit patches > > they may not understand fully themselves > > That is a recipe for disaster :-(. The real problem I see with the big > patches that are currently in the queue is that I'm not sure even the > authors understand the patches (or more accurately, all their potential > consequences) completely. Telling committers they should apply such > patches without having understood them either is just going to lead to > an unfixably broken system. > > [ thinks for a bit... ] What we need to expand is not so much the pool > of committers as the pool of reviewers. If a patch had been signed off > on by X number of reasonably-qualified people then it'd be fair to > consider that it could be committed. The tracking system you suggest > could make that sort of approach manageable. I am still unclear how the patch would get into such a system, and how we would add comments, apply, and later remove it, without causing us even more work. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +