From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Message-Id: <200705050338.l453cNs11198@momjian.us>
Subject: Re: New idea for patch tracking
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To: Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 23:38:23 -0400 (EDT)
CC: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
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Andrew Dunstan wrote:
> I will say publicly what I have said to others privately. Forgive me if 
> I'm a bit blunter than usual. I do not see any value in this at all. 
> What we need to track are problems to be solved, be they bugs or 
> features, not particular patches. Tracking patches simply comes too late 
> in the process.
> 
> I think that your attitude to the use of bug/feature trackers is quite 
> unreasonable, and certainly in opposition to what seems to be the 
> majority opinion among developers. It's a great pity that you are so 
> utterly resistant to use of tracking software. The only reason that this 
> system, at best a half measure in almost everyone's eyes, is being 
> proposed, as far as I can see, is that you will not agree to use 
> anything else.
> 
> So if this goes ahead and proves to be of little value, I hope that you 
> will relent and agree the use of proper tracking software like almost 
> every other open source project uses. It really is time that PostgreSQL 
> managed to advance beyond thinking that email lists are the greatest 
> management tool since sliced bread. It's just indefensible in 2007.

As I said before, I am involved in patches only when a patch isn't
addressed.  If a new system works, I will have nothing to do, which is
good.

If you want me to believe it will work better than what we do now, I
can't.  Prove me wrong.  Forget about what I think.  Do something and
stop talking about it.

What I am not going to do is to do 2x more work and get 2% more help,
which is what I fear.

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