Received: from localhost (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51239FB92B for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 21:50:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26274-02 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 21:50:33 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9969D9FB866 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 21:50:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from new-host.home ([71.166.59.121]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JIV009DURNW3L00@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Wed, 30 May 2007 19:50:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 20:50:17 -0400 From: Robert Treat Subject: Re: New Lists? In-reply-to: <20070530221748.GF19610@fetter.org> To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Cc: David Fetter , Devrim G 334ND 334Z Message-id: <200705302050.18393.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20070530045532.GJ1912@fetter.org> <1180560360.3459.40.camel@laptop.gunduz.org> <20070530221748.GF19610@fetter.org> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200705/105 X-Sequence-Number: 12039 On Wednesday 30 May 2007 18:17, David Fetter wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:26:00AM +0300, Devrim G?ND?Z wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 11:02 -0700, David Fetter wrote: > > > I like this idea, but I have questions about how we assess this. > > > We have a sample of size comfortably less than 10 from all of the > > > People's Republic of China, and fewer still from Iran. How do we > > > know whom we're talking to? > > > > How do you know that the people who ask you a list is really a > > PostgreSQL guy? When I asked for a list for -tr (which is the first > > country-specific list...) noone objected since people knew me. > > That is the problem. Not every country has a known representative, > nor, I think, should we demand that that they do in order to get > started. > > > "Endorsing by a known community member" is a good option, when there > > are few people in that specific country. > > In China, we have approximately zero. Similar with Iran. > Eh... I've spoken with a few chinese members on related topics... and have at least one I'd endorse if I had to. > > ... BTW, "leadership" does not meet the meaning that I wanted to > > say. Ignore that part, please. > > > > > One way to define leadership is "those who step up and do the > > > work." It's always possible to revisit :) > > > > Once we create the list, people from local community will ask for > > updates whenever the list administrator cannot administrate the list > > any longer. > yeah, I don't see too much concern from that side. -- Robert Treat Build A Brighter LAMP :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL