Received: from localhost (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D409FC007 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 19:17:54 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65216-04 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 19:17:51 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from fetter.org (start.fetter.org [66.92.188.65]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2869FB937 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 19:17:50 -0300 (ADT) Received: by fetter.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 1BFD0F3C396; Wed, 30 May 2007 15:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 15:17:48 -0700 From: David Fetter To: Devrim G 334ND 334Z Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Subject: Re: New Lists? Message-ID: <20070530221748.GF19610@fetter.org> References: <20070530045532.GJ1912@fetter.org> <1180513662.3396.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070530180207.GK1912@fetter.org> <1180560360.3459.40.camel@laptop.gunduz.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1180560360.3459.40.camel@laptop.gunduz.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200705/101 X-Sequence-Number: 12035 On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:26:00AM +0300, Devrim G?ND?Z wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 11:02 -0700, David Fetter wrote: > > I like this idea, but I have questions about how we assess this. > > We have a sample of size comfortably less than 10 from all of the > > People's Republic of China, and fewer still from Iran. How do we > > know whom we're talking to? > > How do you know that the people who ask you a list is really a > PostgreSQL guy? When I asked for a list for -tr (which is the first > country-specific list...) noone objected since people knew me. That is the problem. Not every country has a known representative, nor, I think, should we demand that that they do in order to get started. > "Endorsing by a known community member" is a good option, when there > are few people in that specific country. In China, we have approximately zero. Similar with Iran. > ... BTW, "leadership" does not meet the meaning that I wanted to > say. Ignore that part, please. > > > One way to define leadership is "those who step up and do the > > work." It's always possible to revisit :) > > Once we create the list, people from local community will ask for > updates whenever the list administrator cannot administrate the list > any longer. OK :) Cheers, D -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! Consider donating to PostgreSQL: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate