Received: from localhost (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179EE9FB4C3 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:50:46 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69715-05 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:50:41 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from main2.mycybernet.net (main2.mycybernet.net [209.222.63.140]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D829FB32C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:50:42 -0300 (ADT) Received: from 227-54-222-209.mycybernet.net ([209.222.54.227] helo=phlogiston.dydns.org) by main2.mycybernet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HwgjZ-0007d6-L3 for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2007 11:50:41 -0400 Received: by phlogiston.dydns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4580F3F9E; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:50:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:50:36 -0400 From: Andrew Sullivan To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: various spam Message-ID: <20070608155036.GN17144@phlogiston.dyndns.org> References: <20070608143339.GC17144@phlogiston.dyndns.org> <4669794C.6030307@commandprompt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4669794C.6030307@commandprompt.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200706/22 X-Sequence-Number: 12061 On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 08:44:12AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > Why not block it before it ever hits the lists? I guess the problem is that it's not exactly spam, so you'd need an AI engine to figure out what it was and block it. It actually is, as near as I can tell, a bunch of people who are convinced that emm-eye-five are out to get them. The reason Usenet became worthless is not just that October never came, but that the metal hospitals all got hooked up to it. Every nutbar freak in the world thinks it's their holy duty to cross post to all of creation. To add insult to injury, those who are opposed to this sort of nonsense forge posts from the above people and cross-post _those_ all over hell and creation. This was a favourite tactic some years ago by self-appointed guardians of Usenet. The idea was that if you pissed off the cabal enough, they'd take action of some unspecified type which would solve the problem in a way that nobody was ever able to quite explain. It was never anything better than vigilantism, but now it's just vandalism. Anyway, I guess we'll just keep moderating and hope the failure to get past moderation will cause the paranoid nutbars and their antagonists to go somewhere else. Some days I hate the Internet :) A -- Andrew Sullivan | ajs@crankycanuck.ca The fact that technology doesn't work is no bar to success in the marketplace. --Philip Greenspun