Received: from localhost (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3353A9FBBD8 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:33:40 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23578-04 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:33:28 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from davinci.ethosmedia.com (server227.ethosmedia.com [209.128.84.227]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C461D9FBB96 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:33:31 -0300 (ADT) X-EthosMedia-Virus-Scanned: no infections found Received: from [64.81.245.111] (account josh@agliodbs.com HELO [192.168.1.27]) by davinci.ethosmedia.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 12800484; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:37:43 -0700 From: Josh Berkus Reply-To: josh@agliodbs.com Organization: Aglio Database Solutions To: Peter Eisentraut Subject: Re: Location of PostgreSQL Performance Test Lab Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:34:52 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Cc: pgsql-www@postgresql.org References: <200707310919.10745.josh@agliodbs.com> <200707311022.30818.josh@agliodbs.com> <200707312000.39340.peter_e@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200707312000.39340.peter_e@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200707311134.54085.josh@agliodbs.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200707/88 X-Sequence-Number: 12235 Peter, > A requirement to have 4 machines at one site to perform a particular > test is not a logical reason to reject the possibility of having, say, > 20 machines at 5 sites to perform all kinds of tests, when the > alternative is to have no machines at no sites. Ah, I see the misunderstanding. Would that we were talking about 20 machines. Right now I'm twisting arms to get 5 servers and 4 JBODs, which we need in the same location to make use of them. So we need these initial machines in one place, as much as possible, to make use of them. > If you can find someone to host everything, great, but you have in fact > already rejected two machines because they are not at the right > location, when I can see great use for those machines no matter where > they are. The peformance testing we can do without storage (drives) is very limited. Currently, the only storage I have is located in the US. In my experience, storage is the hardest thing to get donated so I don't really expect to find some in Europe soon. Gavin's machine is the exception becuase it comes with a 28-disk array. Still, we could do even more with it if we had another machine or two in that location. -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco