Received: from localhost (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E7B9FB782; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 16:30:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70950-03; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 16:29:59 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from fetter.org (start.fetter.org [66.92.188.65]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5179FB5D9; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 16:30:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: by fetter.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 59480FBC6BF; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:30:00 -0700 From: David Fetter To: Dave Page Cc: "Joshua D. Drake" , Mike Ellsworth , pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Subject: Re: EnterpriseDB Postgres Message-ID: <20070808193000.GB7134@fetter.org> References: <200708081736.26564.peter_e@gmx.net> <51494DB187D98F4C88DBEBF1F5F6D423022518CA@edb06.mail01.enterprisedb.com> <200708081836.44990.peter_e@gmx.net> <46B9FA88.8000809@commandprompt.com> <219951fd0708081116v5c761346yc68d72b04ae9ee1d@mail.gmail.com> <46BA0C2F.3030305@postgresql.org> <20070808185920.GA7134@fetter.org> <46BA14F3.604@commandprompt.com> <46BA170E.9060709@postgresql.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46BA170E.9060709@postgresql.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200708/174 X-Sequence-Number: 11744 On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 08:18:38PM +0100, Dave Page wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > David Fetter wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 07:32:15PM +0100, Dave Page wrote: > >>> Mike Ellsworth wrote: > > > >> Dave, > > > >> I know you mean well, but in this case, you created, at best, the > >> appearance of a conflict of interest. Next time, please ask somebody > >> not employed at EnterpriseDB to review such pieces. > > > > Actually this is probably a good idea in general. It isn't a question of > > inappropriateness but the appearance of thus by *any* member. We have > > quite a few prominent members employed by several prominent postgresql > > companies. > > I don't necessarily disagree, and in fact did refuse to post it and > approve it myself (hence why it came from Peter Yarrow). > > However, as I know I subjected it to the same rules as we apply to all > articles, I didn't see a problem approving it myself. I've had to deal > with these conflicts of interest for years on the website - for example, > dealing with news relating to other admin tools, especially those from > one particular company who like to try to flood us with postings from > time to time. > > If people want to make 'no self approval of your or your companies > items' a new moderation rule, I have no problem with that. Good idea. We have enough people and enough diversity that making this explicit in the moderation rules is reasonable. :) Speaking of which, I'd love to figure out a system whereby I can avoid (the appearance of) similar conflicts of interest in the PostgreSQL Weekly News, as I have been in a position to announce things I've done, are doing, etc., and have never felt comfortable about it. I guess that's a subject for another thread, though. Cheers, David. -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! Consider donating to PostgreSQL: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate