Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19D09FB56D; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 18:47:51 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 81216-01; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 18:47:48 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from noel.decibel.org (noel.decibel.org [67.100.216.10]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579099FB565; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 18:47:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: by noel.decibel.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9B222564BE; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 16:47:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: (hashcash-sendmail, from uid 1001); Wed, 8 Aug 2007 16:47:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 16:47:42 -0500 From: Decibel! To: Peter Eisentraut Cc: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org, Dave Page , Joshua_Kramer Subject: Re: EnterpriseDB Postgres Message-ID: <20070808214742.GU20424@nasby.net> References: <46BA0B46.2030603@postgresql.org> <20070808210707.GR20424@nasby.net> <200708082338.19482.peter_e@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lbQeYSs6J2ITmUo7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200708082338.19482.peter_e@gmx.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 amd64 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Hashcash: 1:20:070808:peter_e@gmx.net::3Bzd+hv8YGa40j4O:000HJ9 X-Hashcash: 1:20:070808:pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org::7tbCKWEPODjOmFYp:00000000 0000000000000000000000005yCT X-Hashcash: 1:20:070808:dpage@postgresql.org::mlAVagPmnR5/XUS8:00000000000000000 0000000000000000000000006x4R X-Hashcash: 1:20:070808:josh@globalherald.net::sZ6CARBpwNm6+Te9:0000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000EI7 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200708/190 X-Sequence-Number: 11760 --lbQeYSs6J2ITmUo7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 11:38:18PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Decibel! wrote: > > Given the target of newbies, something we should probably add to that > > list is turning autovacuum on. Leaving that off is going to leave a > > bad taste in the mouth of a lot of folks, far worse than our > > minimalist configuration. >=20 > Or alternatively, the bad taste may stem from someone unilaterally=20 > overriding configuration decisions consciously made by the developers. Well, you mentioned lack of vacuuming twice in your blog, so you're the last person I expected to object to this. I don't see how leaving autovacuum turned off can be a good idea in a package that's specifically meant to be easy. "Congratulations, you've just installed Postgres! Oh, wait... one more thing... go edit this file by hand otherwise your performance will suck as soon as you start throwing any real data at the database." --=20 Decibel!, aka Jim Nasby decibel@decibel.org EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell) --lbQeYSs6J2ITmUo7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGujn+dO30qud8SkgRArJTAJoCfqFVZkOdbz3CcqGB7oXhXUX0NQCgjYaO fTGHuGopODpDSNk69mz9w+w= =LshB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lbQeYSs6J2ITmUo7--