Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F5E9FB34D for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:35:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 45771-02-4 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:35:02 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-254.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.254]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9389FC494 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:28:37 -0300 (ADT) Received: from scratch (or-69-34-217-90.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.217.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lA1GS2Ld001986; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:28:03 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:28:06 -0700 From: "Joshua D. Drake" To: "Marc G. Fournier" Cc: Magnus Hagander , Andrew Sullivan , pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: what is up with the PG mailing lists? Message-ID: <20071101092806.3b1fa452@scratch> In-Reply-To: References: <25716.1193887595@sss.pgh.pa.us> <26669.1193891360@sss.pgh.pa.us> <47299585.7030402@hagander.net> <47299957.5020605@postgresql.org> <2968.1193919208@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20071101080959.49f3087b@scratch> <20071101152333.GM27676@crankycanuck.ca> <4729F105.30704@hagander.net> <1127E6493CBA8A29F343C4D7@ganymede.hub.org> <4729F7D2.6050608@hagander.net> Organization: Joshua D. Drake X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.0; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/C.SNwe22N3VBGLjGPrQD6mK"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/4648/Wed Oct 31 07:11:06 2007 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (lists.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:28:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200711/34 X-Sequence-Number: 12812 --Sig_/C.SNwe22N3VBGLjGPrQD6mK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:16:01 -0300 "Marc G. Fournier" wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 >=20 >=20 > - --On Thursday, November 01, 2007 16:59:14 +0100 Magnus Hagander=20 > wrote: >=20 >=20 > > No. All those cases are reasons for acceptable delays. But how often > > does say network connectivity go away for an hour? If they do, you > > need to better hosting provider. >=20 > You really don't have a clue on how an SMTP server works, do you?=20 Let's not turn this into an attack fest please. > If > delivery fails, it backs up and tries again *later* ... if there is a Why did delivery fail is the question. > high volume of email going through said server, *later* could very > well be 1 hour ... and, in fact, its an incremental backup, so it > actually works out to be something like: O.k. this is true but there is something wrong here. Why is the server so backed up that this is happening in the first place. If the server is actually loaded that much, we need to figure out how to get a better server for mail shipped to panama. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake --=20 =3D=3D=3D The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. =3D=3D=3D Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ UNIQUE NOT NULL Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ --Sig_/C.SNwe22N3VBGLjGPrQD6mK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHKf6WATb/zqfZUUQRAknuAJ9TSj6xufoO55oDh1XmPryBA43E7wCbBlu7 fnY5SVOYA/QK+cA1MMZ634Y= =3WPS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/C.SNwe22N3VBGLjGPrQD6mK--