Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26909F9821 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:50:49 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01742-01 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:50:46 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from developer.pgadmin.org (developer.pgadmin.org [63.246.23.140]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347249F9820 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:50:46 -0400 (AST) Received: from [172.16.0.67] ([78.146.239.24]) (authenticated bits=0) by developer.pgadmin.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lA4JoLXn023801 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:50:27 GMT From: "Dave Page" To: "Kris Jurka" CC: "Joshua D. Drake" , "Chander Ganesan" , "Marc G. Fournier" , "Kevin Hunter" , "Postgres WWW List" , "Peter Eisentraut" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <200711041951040000@204315953> Subject: Re: Training events policy ... first test case Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:51:03 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200711/113 X-Sequence-Number: 12891 > ------- Original Message ------- > From: Kris Jurka > To: Dave Page > Sent: 04/11/07, 19:28:54 > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Training events policy ... first test case > > > On Sun, 4 Nov 2007, Dave Page wrote: > > >> ------- Original Message ------- > >> From: "Joshua D. Drake" > >> To: Chander Ganesan > >> Sent: 04/11/07, 17:39:21 > >> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Training events policy ... first test case > >> > >> However I do see a flood of entries later from Certfirst. Not to be an > >> ass, but this problem goes away for the forseeable future if we just > >> ban Certfirst from posting training events. There is no way they are > >> running all those classes. > > > > Any talk along those lines should not be held in this public forum. > > > > I don't see why not. This whole thread has been full of vague, "some > companies" are doing bad things. If there are bad apples out there, let's > expose them. While it may not be appropriate to speak for the community > yet, I don't see why individuals naming names is a bad thing. It focuses > the actual discussion back to reality and let's people in the know have > some useful information when discussing or considering training. > > Your suggestion implies that instead of doing this publicly a www team > cabal should decide this in some back room and not inform anyone of it. > You have some proof they're doing anything inappropriate? Confident a judge would accept it if they sued for damage to their reputation and loss of potential business by allegations made in a public forum? Regards, Dave