Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:33:53 +0100
From: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
To: "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>, pgsql-www@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Contributor listing policy
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On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 02:19:50PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > Contributor listings are not a matter of *only* WWW team's
> > discretion.  In fact, traditionally, contents of the developer
> > listings have been determined by the core team;
> 
> As I understand it, traditionally Robert handled that with Core
> oversight. 

Yes, that is correct. Basically, Robert drew up the changes he wanted to
do, and sent them by -core for approval.


> > > The idea that a line of code is more important than the
> > > organization of an army (users) is incorrect. Without one the other
> > > is pointless.
> > 
> > I'm hardly one to argue that non-code contributors aren't important.
> > However, I also don't see a reason to dramatically change the
> > listings all at once; why not do it in stages, with non-code
> > contributors listed in the "contributors" section this year, and
> > under "major" maybe next year?  Given that non-code contributors
> > currently aren't listed *at all* despite the change in headings, I
> > still see it moving in the right direction.
> 
> The reason non code contributors aren't listed is the list has been
> basically unmaintained for over a year. There are also code
> contributors that aren't listed, Stefan being one of the most glaring
> examples.

That's because it hasn't yet been updated for 8.3. 


> > The core team felt this was a reasonable compromise; Magnus felt it
> > was a reasonable compromise.  So far, you're the only one to think
> > it's not a reasonable way to go, so I'd like to hear from some other
> > people as well as you.
> > 
> 
> Well I would like hear it from more than just you. Magnus hasn't said a
> word publicly, neither has Dave, Jan, Marc, Tom, Bruce, Peter or the

Well, let me say it publically then, if the reference isn't enough. I think
it's a reasonable compromise to get started with, that we can continue
building on.

It was also presented as the solution that -core agreed on. I'm sure that
if Josh actually lied about that, someone would've spoken up quite fast.
But I strongly doubt that Josh would claim to present the "view of the core
team" if the discussion hadn't taken place.

//Magnus