Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06A02E01C1 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:04:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 86122-07 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:03:50 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-159.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.159]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5442E01A8 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:03:57 -0300 (ADT) Received: from perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (190-95-27-98.bk17-dsl.surnet.cl [190.95.27.98]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2C14CpT002965 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:04:17 -0700 Received: by perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C5A5147BFC; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:03:46 -0300 (CLST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:03:46 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: "Joshua D. Drake" Cc: Bruce Momjian , PostgreSQL www Subject: Re: Email not searchable in our archives Message-ID: <20080312010346.GE6737@alvh.no-ip.org> References: <200803112135.m2BLZ6625071@momjian.us> <20080311220224.GC6737@alvh.no-ip.org> <20080311152012.3bd779b9@jd-laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080311152012.3bd779b9@jd-laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (lists.commandprompt.com [207.173.203.159]); Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:04:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200803/234 X-Sequence-Number: 14353 Joshua D. Drake wrote: > I am wondering if we should bail out of Mhonarc all together. Do we > actually need it? We have the actual mbox files right? Couldn't we > build our own parser for whatever? > > As a note, mailman also uses mbox files. We could try its archive > generation capability. Mailman archives are just as crappy, if not crappier. And they know it. It's based on Hypermail; I note that Hypermail's latest version happened on 2003. The Mailman guys are rethinking the issue; see http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/ModernArchiving Somebody suggests Lurker as one alternative: http://lurker.sourceforge.net/ It is a very different interface. Perhaps we could try it as an experiment. I have seen the Debian lists under it and it feels really martian. I don't want to lose Mhonarc, at least not for the moment. It is powerful and customizable and has served us reasonably well for a very long time. (Longer than most of us, actually.) -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support