Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5506B2E006B for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:58:00 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21385-08 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:57:50 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net (vms048pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.48]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A102E008C for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:57:57 -0300 (ADT) Received: from new-host.home ([71.245.161.199]) by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JXN0062Z6JXYLM0@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:57:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:56:39 -0400 From: Robert Treat Subject: Re: Contributor listing policy In-reply-to: <17085.1205110747@sss.pgh.pa.us> To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Cc: Tom Lane , "Joshua D. Drake" , Josh Berkus Message-id: <200803121956.40250.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <200803071514.09009.josh@agliodbs.com> <20080309141950.0a8071bc@commandprompt.com> <17085.1205110747@sss.pgh.pa.us> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200803/319 X-Sequence-Number: 14438 On Sunday 09 March 2008 20:59, Tom Lane wrote: > "Joshua D. Drake" writes: > > Josh Berkus wrote: > >> Actually, looking at the archives, there wasn't much discussion when > >> you submitted the patch; I doubt that most people realized the > >> changes it made. I know that I wasn't clear on it, noticing only the > >> change in sort order, and certainly the rest of the core team (or > >> hackers) didn't discuss it. > > > > Perhaps you should read again there are actually two threads and there > > was a very long discussion. That every single core member spoke up at > > least once except for Jan. The following is the thread on my patch > > which changed the wording from Developers to Contributors and moved its > > home under /community/. > > > > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-www/2007-12/msg00022.php > > Why is any of this discussion happening on pgsql-www? Surely it is not > the webteam's charter to determine who is or is not a contributor. > > If, as is evidently the case, you are unwilling to defer to core's > opinions on the matter, you need to muster support for your position > on some more widely-read mailing list. > > >> In fact, traditionally, contents of the developer > >> listings have been determined by the core team; > > > > As I understand it, traditionally Robert handled that with Core > > oversight. > > I don't particularly know who made the webpage edits, but it's always > been core's determination who is or is not listed. > > > The reason non code contributors aren't listed is the list has been > > basically unmaintained for over a year. > > Traditionally core has reconsidered the list shortly after each major > release. We were in fact in process of doing that now. The long delay > since the last changes is a direct result of the slipped 8.3 schedule. > This seems to discount my efforts in the whole process. My theory was if I ever left it up to core, it would never get updated. Never is a long time, so I suspect I'll be proven wrong in the long run, but so far I am correct. -- Robert Treat Build A Brighter LAMP :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL