Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69412E003A for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:59:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76102-09 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:59:20 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-159.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.159]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DDA2E003D for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:59:21 -0300 (ADT) Received: from jd-laptop (or-69-34-217-90.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.217.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2MFxie8011987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:59:44 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:59:12 -0700 From: "Joshua D. Drake" To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Dave Page , Robert Treat , pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Time to get infrastructure team-based Message-ID: <20080322085912.082a1338@jd-laptop> In-Reply-To: <200803221421.m2MELgS19380@momjian.us> References: <937d27e10803220714q29906c2cg3ab43c9a2735f622@mail.gmail.com> <200803221421.m2MELgS19380@momjian.us> Organization: Joshua D. Drake X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/usb7qI12.gMr2OZEtS=eoW0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (lists.commandprompt.com [207.173.203.159]); Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:59:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200803/479 X-Sequence-Number: 14598 --Sig_/usb7qI12.gMr2OZEtS=eoW0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Bruce Momjian wrote: =20 > > Once we have agreement from the appropriate person (who will have to > > agree, given that he owns the domain), the sysadmins team can start > > to figure out what's needed and provision the appropriate VM. >=20 > Based on past history I don't think we will ever get agreement, so > either we do it ourselves or we move to a new domain that we do > control. I seriously doubt that given past history, the pressure required to make such a change has ever been applied. If you are serious about this, it must be a public change, it must be a documented change, and the community as a whole needs to be involved. This is either a "community" project or it isn't. People (any people) that hold up the will of the community must be held accountable. Unless the people actively suggesting this change are willing to start that publicly accountable discussion, I suggest we drop this thread now. >=20 > I thought we could make changes to the domain. >=20 The domain is currently controlled by a single individual. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake --=20 The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/=20 PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL SPI Liaison | SPI Director | PostgreSQL political pundit --Sig_/usb7qI12.gMr2OZEtS=eoW0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH5SzQATb/zqfZUUQRAj2IAJ9tE/1aAMkis7ZuGUl5mADkpNBAngCgidxn 3QbSk982VCgmCajUepPgNM8= =7hIl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/usb7qI12.gMr2OZEtS=eoW0--