Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF442E005F for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:45:04 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 35166-10 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:44:52 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from main2.mycybernet.net (main2.mycybernet.net [209.222.63.140]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B02A2E005E for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:45:00 -0300 (ADT) Received: from 227-54-222-209.mycybernet.net ([209.222.54.227] helo=crankycanuck.ca) by main2.mycybernet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1JeVw3-0003Y1-2w for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:44:59 -0400 Received: by crankycanuck.ca (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BC07A5014B; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:44:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:44:49 -0400 From: Andrew Sullivan To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: New email list for emergency communications Message-ID: <20080326134449.GA5372@crankycanuck.ca> References: <20080324173332.GD23447@crankycanuck.ca> <200803241739.m2OHd7D06888@momjian.us> <20080324174405.GE23447@crankycanuck.ca> <20080324175418.GF5484@alvh.no-ip.org> <20080324193116.6eb3a19c@iridium.wars-nicht.de> <20080324120112.12a57ef7@jd-laptop> <1206527973.6976.9.camel@mha-laptop.clients.sollentuna.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1206527973.6976.9.camel@mha-laptop.clients.sollentuna.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200803/596 X-Sequence-Number: 14715 On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:39:33AM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote: > I don't see a reason for us to run one private and one public server. In I agree with that. The problem is that the protocol is actually designed so that you don't need these infernal private servers. > AFAIK every reasonable IM client people would use today can easily add > two jabber accounts (or more), so I don't see the problem, really. Part of the point of the Jabber protocol is to avoid having to track which account you have to use to talk to which people. Having all these private servers is taking us back to the days of GEnie, CompuServe, and other such closed networks: you had to know which gateway (or series of gateways, in the case of UUCP mail) to use in order to reach your party. Computers are better at routing than humans. A