Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by developer.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53342E006A for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 23:44:04 -0300 (ADT) Received: from developer.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02649-02-3 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 23:43:57 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from momjian.us (momjian.us [70.90.9.53]) by developer.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661232E0082 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 23:43:44 -0300 (ADT) Received: (from bruce@localhost) by momjian.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id m352hgm05989; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:43:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200804050243.m352hgm05989@momjian.us> Subject: Re: Patch queue -> wiki In-Reply-To: <27542.1207363037@sss.pgh.pa.us> To: Tom Lane Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:43:42 -0400 (EDT) CC: Alvaro Herrera , Gregory Stark , Greg Smith , Pg Hackers X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL124 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200804/323 X-Sequence-Number: 116416 Tom Lane wrote: > The patch queue is by definition transient --- nobody particularly cares > about what its past state was, as shown by the fact that you've gotten > along for years with an implementation that's incapable of recalling > past state. (Now I do like the idea that a wiki-based patch queue would > retain some history, but I'm not expecting that it'll archive every > change indefinitely.) > > The right way to think about and design the patch queue is as a changing > index into the archives. One of the things I seriously dislike about > your current implementation is that it ignores the archives. You've > whacked us around two or three times this month developing "permanent" > and then "really permanent" URLs, but that whole thing is wrong from the > get-go. You are not the keeper of the project's historical record. > The patch queue should be trafficking in URLs that do point into the > historical record. Sure, it would be nice if an email link could jump right into the archives, but until we have a way to get to the archives via a message-id, I know of know way to automate that. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +