Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:23:40 -0700
From: Joshua Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
To: Chander Ganesan <chander@otg-nc.com>
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Subject: Re: Download links
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:06:18 -0400
Chander Ganesan <chander@otg-nc.com> wrote:

> > I think there is some confusion here. EDB does not require
> > collection of any data to download the software.

> Correct.  As I said in my previous email, the information isn't 
> required.  However, IMHO, the presentation of a form at all to
> collect such information results in a significant market advantage
> over other vendors that also support PostgreSQL ...its great when the
> develop their leads at all, but when those leads come directly from
> the community site, its a whole different story....  All things being
> equal, it provides EDB with a huge competitive advantage - that many
> other contributors cannot avail themselves to (for a variety of

I am not 100% sure I agree with this, however in the interest of
compromise if I go to http://www.postgresql.org/download I am presented
with a list of operating systems:

    * FreeBSD
    * Linux
    * Mac OS X
    * Solaris
    * Windows

What if that instead became:

    * FreeBSD
    * Linux 
      * CentOS/RHEL/Fedora , 
      * Debian 
      * Ubuntu
      * SuSE
      * One-Click
    * Mac OS X 
      * Fink
      * Mac Ports
    * Solaris
    * Win32

3rd Party

 ...

This would eliminate the perceived favoritism. I think. Thoughts?


> reasons).  The question being, should any vendor who chooses to
> package their own installer be given a position that is preferential
> over other vendors that contribute in a different (but perhaps just
> as beneficial to the community) way?

Well in my opinion any and all custom installers should be a distant
5th place over any native distribution packaging.

> 
> I'm not sure I would classify this as an EDB related issue
> specifically, it's a question that is speaks toward a general policy
> with regard to how such things are handled....
> 

Well (and I have been having this discussion with others offline) I
think .Org is pandering to the commercial interests a little bit
too much. I would like to see us move a little bit more to the left in
terms of our "community".

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake


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