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* Wiki problem with URLs
@ 2013-01-27 00:02 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-01-27 18:57 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2013-01-27 00:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www
While trying to add a Gmail URL to our TODO wiki:
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo
I found that URLs that contain equal signs are being silently not
displayed by the wiki. For example, this existing TODO entry:
{{TodoItem
|Allow VIEW/RULE recompilation when the underlying tables change
|This is both difficult and controversial.
* [http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-12/msg01723.php Re: About "Allow VIEW/RULE recompilation when the underlying tables change"]
* [http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-12/msg01724.php Re: About "Allow VIEW/RULE recompilation when the underlying tables change"]
--> * [http://archives.postgresql.org/message-id/[email protected]... VIEW still referring to old name of field]
}}
I would love to give you a URL to that section, but "Views / Rules" is
not clickable on Firefox on my machine --- you have to scroll down. You
will see the text display is:
Allow VIEW/RULE recompilation when the underlying tables change
The second line is missing, as well as all the links. I believe it is
the last link which contains an equals sign that is causing the problem,
based on my experiments.
A fix need to be found, and all URLs with equal signs fixed.
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* Re: Wiki problem with URLs
2013-01-27 00:02 Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
@ 2013-01-27 18:57 ` Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 00:27 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 18:39 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
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From: Stefan Kaltenbrunner @ 2013-01-27 18:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
On 01/27/2013 01:02 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> While trying to add a Gmail URL to our TODO wiki:
>
> https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo
>
> I found that URLs that contain equal signs are being silently not
> displayed by the wiki. For example, this existing TODO entry:
>
> {{TodoItem
> |Allow VIEW/RULE recompilation when the underlying tables change
> |This is both difficult and controversial.
> * [http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-12/msg01723.php Re: About "Allow VIEW/RULE recompilation when the underlying tables change"]
> * [http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-12/msg01724.php Re: About "Allow VIEW/RULE recompilation when the underlying tables change"]
> --> * [http://archives.postgresql.org/message-id/[email protected]... VIEW still referring to old name of field]
> }}
>
>
> I would love to give you a URL to that section, but "Views / Rules" is
> not clickable on Firefox on my machine --- you have to scroll down. You
> will see the text display is:
>
> Allow VIEW/RULE recompilation when the underlying tables change
>
> The second line is missing, as well as all the links. I believe it is
> the last link which contains an equals sign that is causing the problem,
> based on my experiments.
>
> A fix need to be found, and all URLs with equal signs fixed.
well this seems to be a URL encoding issue - replacing the = with a %3D
fixes the problem.
Stefan
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* Re: Wiki problem with URLs
2013-01-27 00:02 Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-01-27 18:57 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
@ 2013-02-01 00:27 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 03:39 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2013-02-01 00:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 07:57:14PM +0100, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
> On 01/27/2013 01:02 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > While trying to add a Gmail URL to our TODO wiki:
> >
> > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo
> >
> > I found that URLs that contain equal signs are being silently not
> > displayed by the wiki. For example, this existing TODO entry:
> >
> > {{TodoItem
> > |Allow VIEW/RULE recompilation when the underlying tables change
> > |This is both difficult and controversial.
> > * [http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-12/msg01723.php Re: About "Allow VIEW/RULE recompilation when the underlying tables change"]
> > * [http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-12/msg01724.php Re: About "Allow VIEW/RULE recompilation when the underlying tables change"]
> > --> * [http://archives.postgresql.org/message-id/[email protected]... VIEW still referring to old name of field]
> > }}
> >
> >
> > I would love to give you a URL to that section, but "Views / Rules" is
> > not clickable on Firefox on my machine --- you have to scroll down. You
> > will see the text display is:
> >
> > Allow VIEW/RULE recompilation when the underlying tables change
> >
> > The second line is missing, as well as all the links. I believe it is
> > the last link which contains an equals sign that is causing the problem,
> > based on my experiments.
> >
> > A fix need to be found, and all URLs with equal signs fixed.
>
>
> well this seems to be a URL encoding issue - replacing the = with a %3D
> fixes the problem.
So the only known fix is to hand-edit URLs to use %3D? That doesn't
seem very good. Do we need to move the TODO list somewhere else?
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* Re: Wiki problem with URLs
2013-01-27 00:02 Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-01-27 18:57 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 00:27 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
@ 2013-02-01 03:39 ` Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 17:42 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 18:39 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
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From: Alvaro Herrera @ 2013-02-01 03:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
Bruce Momjian wrote:
> So the only known fix is to hand-edit URLs to use %3D? That doesn't
> seem very good. Do we need to move the TODO list somewhere else?
There are several reasons why the wiki is not a perfect fit for the
TODO; for instance, taking out the items done as each major version gets
released is always problematic. Are you proposing to write a Django app
to host the TODO? That, I think, would be best.
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* Re: Wiki problem with URLs
2013-01-27 00:02 Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-01-27 18:57 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 00:27 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 03:39 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
@ 2013-02-01 17:42 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 18:21 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2013-02-01 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>; +Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:39:42AM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> > So the only known fix is to hand-edit URLs to use %3D? That doesn't
> > seem very good. Do we need to move the TODO list somewhere else?
>
> There are several reasons why the wiki is not a perfect fit for the
> TODO; for instance, taking out the items done as each major version gets
> released is always problematic. Are you proposing to write a Django app
> to host the TODO? That, I think, would be best.
Well, I guess all I am saying is that now that there are no archive URLs
being generated, e.g.
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2005-09/msg00781.php
everything is a message-id, and many message ids (e.g. Google) have
characters that cause problems for the wiki, e.g. '='.
I can encode '=', but there might be other characters, and other people
might not know to do that. Also, when you don't encode '=', you don't
get any feedback that there is a problem --- that link URL just
disappears from the wiki, and not just the URL disappears but all links
and any secondary text for the item.
What I can do it cleanup what is there and try to encode '=', but I
hardly see that as a long-term solution.
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* Re: Wiki problem with URLs
2013-01-27 00:02 Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-01-27 18:57 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 00:27 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 03:39 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 17:42 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
@ 2013-02-01 18:21 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2013-02-01 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>; +Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:42:07PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> What I can do it cleanup what is there and try to encode '=', but I
> hardly see that as a long-term solution.
FYI, Stefan Kaltenbrunner has already corrected the exiting URLs on the
TODO list, so it is just the new ones we need to worry about. I could
create an automated script to pull the TODO list and look for '=' in
URLs.
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* Re: Wiki problem with URLs
2013-01-27 00:02 Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-01-27 18:57 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 00:27 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 03:39 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
@ 2013-02-01 18:39 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
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From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2013-02-01 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On 01/31/2013 07:39 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
>> So the only known fix is to hand-edit URLs to use %3D? That doesn't
>> seem very good. Do we need to move the TODO list somewhere else?
>
> There are several reasons why the wiki is not a perfect fit for the
> TODO; for instance, taking out the items done as each major version gets
> released is always problematic. Are you proposing to write a Django app
> to host the TODO? That, I think, would be best.
Although it is true that the wiki is not the best choice, it is better
than what we had before and this response is certainly not helpful to
the problem at hand.
JD
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* Re: Wiki problem with URLs
2013-01-27 00:02 Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-01-27 18:57 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
@ 2013-02-01 18:39 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 18:56 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2013-02-01 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On 01/27/2013 10:57 AM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
>> A fix need to be found, and all URLs with equal signs fixed.
>
>
> well this seems to be a URL encoding issue - replacing the = with a %3D
> fixes the problem.
No it puts a band aid on it. This is clearly a bug in the wiki code. I
think it is unreasonable to have to modify every URL that would normally
work perfectly.
JD
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* Re: Wiki problem with URLs
2013-01-27 00:02 Wiki problem with URLs Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2013-01-27 18:57 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
2013-02-01 18:39 ` Re: Wiki problem with URLs Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2013-02-01 18:56 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2013-02-01 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:39:05AM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
> On 01/27/2013 10:57 AM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
>
> >>A fix need to be found, and all URLs with equal signs fixed.
> >
> >
> >well this seems to be a URL encoding issue - replacing the = with a %3D
> >fixes the problem.
>
> No it puts a band aid on it. This is clearly a bug in the wiki code.
> I think it is unreasonable to have to modify every URL that would
> normally work perfectly.
Agreed, but based on the fact that no one yet knows how to fix it, I
have written the attached script which I will run automatically to check
for such problems.
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wget -q -O - 'http://wiki.postgresql.org/index.php?title=Todo&action=edit'; |
grep "http://[^ ]*="
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