Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7nV0-0000Oi-74 for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:44:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7nUz-0008W4-M0 for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:44:45 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7nUx-0008Vq-VO; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:44:44 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7nUu-00047E-6q; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:44:43 +0000 Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7nUl-00024l-Gq; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:44:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:44:31 -0500 From: Bruce Momjian To: Markus Wanner Cc: Alvaro Herrera , Christoph Berg , Stefan Kaltenbrunner , Josh Berkus , Martin Pitt , Magnus Hagander , PostgreSQL WWW , PostgreSQL in Debian , Tom Lane Subject: Re: [pgsql-pkg-debian] Re: We should not transition to apt.postgresql.org until we have a PPA Message-ID: <20130219134431.GD20153@momjian.us> References: <20130216084421.GA1223@msgid.df7cb.de> <20130216153309.GF12029@momjian.us> <20130216234034.GG12029@momjian.us> <20130217054028.GA6000@alvh.no-ip.org> <20130217121745.GH12029@momjian.us> <20130218020824.GA4691@alvh.no-ip.org> <20130219120304.GB20153@momjian.us> <512379E2.1070806@bluegap.ch> <20130219132022.GC20153@momjian.us> <51237E69.2020903@bluegap.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51237E69.2020903@bluegap.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-www Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 02:30:17PM +0100, Markus Wanner wrote: > On 02/19/2013 02:20 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > My only point is that we assumed the user knew the release names to > > install the software, and often they don't, and we didn't tell them how > > to find out. > > Oh, okay. That's surprising me. It's the exact opposite of my > experience, though. My customers were usually talking about etch, lenny, > lucid, or precise. But well, maybe they just figured they need to > look-up the code name to be able to talk to me. :-) I have been running Ubuntu for 5 years and didn't know the code name of my release until I had to track a bug report a few months ago. In fact, finding the Ubuntu version numbrer isn't obvious either --- you have to look under Details in System Settings, i.e. uname -a does not show it to you. Also, when I asked how on this list how users are supposed to find their code name, look at the fact I got no replies, had to find it myself via a Google search, then others were confused by how to run the command because the command without arguments isn't very useful. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + It's impossible for everything to be true. + -- Sent via pgsql-www mailing list (pgsql-www@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-www