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* 404 for some mbox archives
@ 2013-03-11 20:41  Tomas Vondra <[email protected]>
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From: Tomas Vondra @ 2013-03-11 20:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-www

Hi,

I'm getting 404 when attempting to download some of the mbox archives.

For example

  http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199805

works just fine, but this

  http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199804

fails with 404. Attached is a list of more such examples.

BTW how does this (mbox archives behind authentication) protect us
against spam?

regards
Tomas

http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199707
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199804
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199909
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199910
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-benchmarks/mbox/pgsql-benchmarks.200601
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-chat/mbox/pgsql-chat.200601
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-chat/mbox/pgsql-chat.200606
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-chat/mbox/pgsql-chat.200704
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-cygwin/mbox/pgsql-cygwin.200001
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-cygwin/mbox/pgsql-cygwin.200102
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-cygwin/mbox/pgsql-cygwin.200802
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-docs/mbox/pgsql-docs.199806
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-docs/mbox/pgsql-docs.199810
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-general/mbox/pgsql-general.199801
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-interfaces/mbox/pgsql-interfaces.199705
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-interfaces/mbox/pgsql-interfaces.200912
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-interfaces/mbox/pgsql-interfaces.201010
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-interfaces/mbox/pgsql-interfaces.201012
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-jdbc/mbox/pgsql-jdbc.199902
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-jdbc/mbox/pgsql-jdbc.200008
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-jdbc/mbox/pgsql-jdbc.200009
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-jdbc/mbox/pgsql-jdbc.200010
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-jdbc/mbox/pgsql-jdbc.200011
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-novice/mbox/pgsql-novice.200003
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-odbc/mbox/pgsql-odbc.200004
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-odbc/mbox/pgsql-odbc.200009
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-odbc/mbox/pgsql-odbc.200012
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200002
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200004
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200005
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200811
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200812
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200901
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200902
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200906
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-rrreviewers/mbox/pgsql-rrreviewers.201002
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-testers/mbox/pgsql-testers.201110

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http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199707
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199804
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199909
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199910
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-benchmarks/mbox/pgsql-benchmarks.200601
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-chat/mbox/pgsql-chat.200601
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-chat/mbox/pgsql-chat.200606
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-chat/mbox/pgsql-chat.200704
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-cygwin/mbox/pgsql-cygwin.200001
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-cygwin/mbox/pgsql-cygwin.200102
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-cygwin/mbox/pgsql-cygwin.200802
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-docs/mbox/pgsql-docs.199806
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-docs/mbox/pgsql-docs.199810
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-general/mbox/pgsql-general.199801
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-interfaces/mbox/pgsql-interfaces.199705
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-interfaces/mbox/pgsql-interfaces.200912
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-interfaces/mbox/pgsql-interfaces.201010
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-interfaces/mbox/pgsql-interfaces.201012
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-jdbc/mbox/pgsql-jdbc.199902
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-jdbc/mbox/pgsql-jdbc.200008
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-jdbc/mbox/pgsql-jdbc.200009
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-jdbc/mbox/pgsql-jdbc.200010
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-jdbc/mbox/pgsql-jdbc.200011
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-novice/mbox/pgsql-novice.200003
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-odbc/mbox/pgsql-odbc.200004
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-odbc/mbox/pgsql-odbc.200009
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-odbc/mbox/pgsql-odbc.200012
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200002
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200004
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200005
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200811
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200812
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200901
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200902
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-patches/mbox/pgsql-patches.200906
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-rrreviewers/mbox/pgsql-rrreviewers.201002
http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-testers/mbox/pgsql-testers.201110

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* Re: 404 for some mbox archives
@ 2013-03-12 10:04  Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
  parent: Tomas Vondra <[email protected]>
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From: Magnus Hagander @ 2013-03-12 10:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomas Vondra <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Tomas Vondra <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm getting 404 when attempting to download some of the mbox archives.
>
> For example
>
>   http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199805
>
> works just fine, but this
>
>   http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199804
>
> fails with 404. Attached is a list of more such examples.

That one simply does not exist.

Why? Because we generate the links to the mbox files based on the
dates of the emails. Clearly we have messages from 199804 that are in
a mbox file from a different date :O

I guess we need to add a check that the file actually exists as well,
and make no silly assumptions about emails being in the correct file
:)

> BTW how does this (mbox archives behind authentication) protect us
> against spam?

Not sure how much it does, but at least now a bot has to spend a bit
more work to actually be able to download it. Most of them likely give
up. And it also keeps people from complaining a bit :)


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* Re: 404 for some mbox archives
@ 2013-03-12 14:12  Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
  parent: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread

From: Alvaro Herrera @ 2013-03-12 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; +Cc: Tomas Vondra <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Tomas Vondra <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm getting 404 when attempting to download some of the mbox archives.
> >
> > For example
> >
> >   http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199805
> >
> > works just fine, but this
> >
> >   http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199804
> >
> > fails with 404. Attached is a list of more such examples.
> 
> That one simply does not exist.
> 
> Why? Because we generate the links to the mbox files based on the
> dates of the emails. Clearly we have messages from 199804 that are in
> a mbox file from a different date :O

It seems that back then list boundaries weren't as clearly defined as
they are now.  I checked the emails listed as being in Oct. 1999 (I
think; maybe it was Sept) and the headers had "To: [email protected]"
instead of pgsql-admin.  There were only two of them.  They were close
to the end of the month (say on the 28th and 29th or something like
that) so maybe they ended up in next month's mbox because they were
delayed because of the resending, or something like that.

I know we used to get email to [email protected] and Marc
customarily resent them to pgsql-hackers, for example.

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* Re: 404 for some mbox archives
@ 2013-04-13 15:21  Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
  parent: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread

From: Magnus Hagander @ 2013-04-13 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>; +Cc: Tomas Vondra <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Alvaro Herrera
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Magnus Hagander wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Tomas Vondra <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm getting 404 when attempting to download some of the mbox archives.
>> >
>> > For example
>> >
>> >   http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199805
>> >
>> > works just fine, but this
>> >
>> >   http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199804
>> >
>> > fails with 404. Attached is a list of more such examples.
>>
>> That one simply does not exist.
>>
>> Why? Because we generate the links to the mbox files based on the
>> dates of the emails. Clearly we have messages from 199804 that are in
>> a mbox file from a different date :O

Sorry about the delay in this, a fix has been pushed so we're no
longer generating mbox links to files that don't exist.


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