Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 07:24:15 -0400
From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc>
Cc: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>,
	"Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>, Paul Waring <paul@xk7.net>,
	PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Can we change auto-logout timing on
 wiki.postgresql.org?
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On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:25:09PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Thu, May  2, 2013 at 08:41:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 07:01:34PM +0200, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
> > > > Note that this is not 7 days since you logged in. It's 7 days since
> > > > you last did something. And as long as you don't stop working, you
> > > > never get logged out ;)
> > > 
> > > and from looking at the average time between changes and the overall
> > > changerate of any given site I don't really see how people people will
> > > realistically hit the 6h limit. Anyhow if somebody wants to change this
> > > to a larger limit I wont object, but 7 days seems mighty excessive...
> > 
> > The problem is not having it timeout while you are using the wiki, it is
> > having it open and then having to re-login every day to do something. 
> > Please make it 7 days.
> 
> Where are we on increasing this timeout?

On other weird thing is that when your session login times out, there is
no indication on the screen, and when you click on something like
"edit", instead of being presented with a login request, you get a
read-only copy of the page.  With other sites, I would normally get a
request to login for such an action.  

I am not sure if this is the wiki software default, or caused by the way
our wiki login is hooked to our community login credentials.  This is
another aspect of the login timeout that makes the site unfriendly ---
you are never really sure if an action is going to work, or you are
going to get a read-only copy, and the read-only copy isn't obvious
until you start trying to type something or notice the text is more dim
than usual.

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  Bruce Momjian  <bruce@momjian.us>        http://momjian.us
  EnterpriseDB                             http://enterprisedb.com

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