Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ghzow-0002Eq-SW for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:38:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ghzov-0003lK-Ix for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:38:09 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ghzov-0003lD-A6 for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:38:09 +0000 Received: from tamriel.snowman.net ([96.255.250.162]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ghzos-0002fp-GW for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:38:07 +0000 Received: by tamriel.snowman.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D8C295F79E; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 11:38:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 11:38:05 -0500 From: Stephen Frost To: Tatsuo Ishii Cc: dpage@pgadmin.org, tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us, dean.a.rasheed@gmail.com, pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org, Magnus Hagander Subject: Re: Policy on cross-posting to multiple lists Message-ID: <20190111163805.GT2528@tamriel.snowman.net> References: <20190110171835.GP2528@tamriel.snowman.net> <3281.1547142423@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190111.100804.2220477848676088079.t-ishii@sraoss.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2zf4BlJ3/42CPO3s" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190111.100804.2220477848676088079.t-ishii@sraoss.co.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --2zf4BlJ3/42CPO3s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, * Tatsuo Ishii (ishii@sraoss.co.jp) wrote: > >> I'm quite on board with the need to reduce useless cross-posting, > >> but this is not the solution. > >=20 > > Agreed. Similarly, posts from pgadmin-support sometimes end up > > intentionally being cross posted to pgadmin-hackers. >=20 > Another use case is, pgsql-docs and pgsql-hackers. For non trivial > documentation changes I would like to register a doc patch to CF, but > CF app does not pick up any messages other than posted in > pgsql-hackers. So to discuss with pgsql-doc subscribers, while dealing > with CF app, I would like cross postings for pgsql-hackers and > pgsql-docs. So, cross-posting between -hackers and -docs should be working now, thanks to the change I made yesterday. After stealing some time from Magnus to chat quickly about this (he seems to be mostly unavailable at present), what we're trying to figure out is what the group, overall, wants, and in particular if the change to allow cross-posting with -hackers solves the valid use-cases while preventing the invalid use-cases (like cross-posting between -general, -performance, and -sql). Of course, it isn't perfect, but then it's unlikely that anything will be. Changes which require us to write additional code into pglister will, of course, take longer, but we can work towards it if there's agreement about what such a change would look like. In the interim, we could see how things go with the current configuration, or we could add other lists to the 'exclude', beyond just -hackers and the private lists, or we could add them all (effectively going back to where things were before the changes were made). Thoughts? Specific votes in one of those directions would help me, at least, figure out what should be done today. Thanks! Stephen --2zf4BlJ3/42CPO3s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJcOMZtAAoJEO1sijiDR2RVbz8P/1TU8wH+A/NQBo3nWN2QYIek 5T2pmI/nJZAtR+0ep42ZWq6c9QpwCjTGlitCoglJvru81F83qFLexrbx7TrDCdF6 6joToaOleHIY0Ml91D8Yu6khMaN/onfydPLnRClgmMed0ve2T4L6sv4H0ryiv9fn dFoEQtunYVWnY6/prX16CmGntLe/p2ZT+rZUmQuTQtu0biSpdxt61moryxEv1UkH ukj8cqRADRFB/CWKW7j0Yf78icHTvzSz3rZCLhkx7P/T4plLC5wyq/gkzq9CGUH8 KoSplZnEG699F19GIdCF17G7eXSPmSE6e00Frg/Y5OQ96j03/kiH0q8U382DP8hd rGz5c0d7IunLev0TeMZVnAbXrx95tLgWoB8dhWObXo6PU14a+UE1obAObFWu9HSn 4xCKbUsqC3OqzxXnLi0GnOAnMF/bz7FT7CQG53YW1Ic5IiebConJWMUpYHpQ9+cp Wrl3ptQfGNdrxL9qHTviTimmenyJJ49ezwhWfouhrN7DaUQ24SiG0hck8XxP52dJ dNgydM4eEyMx7QwEhXmTT4beJ2xNC34p20lmmSokEsYTcsLiz0fo4rEjq39gm8a9 a5oWVTYmTK3kpzERASSN9kf1NKmlh0ZdzQo1y696U5LV9cBVF5SWeZYYFzJDqePU PEqqYzovpljEk/PJzKdm =wVpJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2zf4BlJ3/42CPO3s--