Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:23:22 -0400
From: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>,
	Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>,
	Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>,
	Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@sraoss.co.jp>, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>,
	Dean Rasheed <dean.a.rasheed@gmail.com>,
	PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Policy on cross-posting to multiple lists
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Greetings,

* Stephen Frost (sfrost@snowman.net) wrote:
> Tip #3: Choose the most appropriate list
>=20
> Choose the most appropriate individual list for your question-
> please do not cross-post between the mailing lists (unless there is a
> specific reason, such as a confirmed bug reported on -bugs leading into
> a discussion which is appropriate for -hackers).  Cross-posted emails
> (ones where more than one list is included in the To or CC) will be
> moderated and therefore will also take longer to reach subscribers.

Concretely, I propose to push the attached later today, unless anyone
has an issue with it.

This restructures the page a bit to title the Tips section explicitly,
and moves the title for Subscribing/Unsubscribing down to actually be
over that part of the page, and adds a paragraph explicitly talking
about Unsubscribing, since we didn't actually have that before (even
though the title implied we did..).

Thanks,

Stephen

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diff --git a/django/archives/mailarchives/templates/index.html b/django/arc=
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*************** The <a href=3D"https://lists.postgresql.or
*** 17,23 ****
 =20
  and many more.
 =20
! <h2>How to Subscribe or Unsubscribe</h2>
 =20
  <p>To help ensure you have a productive experience on the PostgreSQL expe=
rience, we have a few tips to get you started on your journey:</p>
 =20
--- 17,23 ----
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  and many more.
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! <h2>Tips For Using the PostgreSQL Mailing Lists</h2>
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  <p>To help ensure you have a productive experience on the PostgreSQL expe=
rience, we have a few tips to get you started on your journey:</p>
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*************** and many more.
*** 31,42 ****
--- 31,55 ----
  <p>If your email address is protected by a mail-back anti-spam system, th=
is could cause some issues with our mailing list system. If it is discovere=
d that your email address has implemented one of these systems, we may have=
 to automatically unsubscribe your account.
  </p>
 =20
+ <h3>Tip #3: Choose The Most Appropriate List</h3>
+=20
+ <p>Choose the most appropriate individual list for your question.  Please=
 do not cross-post (have multiple mailing lists in one email) unless there =
is a specific reason (such as a confirmed bug report being cross-posted to =
the hackers mailing list).  Instead, choose the most appropriate list for y=
our email and send it there.  Cross-posted emails will be moderated and the=
refore will also take longer to reach the subscribers if approved.
+ </p>
+=20
+ <h2>How to Subscribe or Unsubscribe</h2>
+=20
  <h3>Subscribing to a PostgreSQL Mailing List</h3>
 =20
  <p>
  Ready to join the PostgreSQL community? You can subscribe to one of our m=
ailing lists at <a href=3D"https://lists.postgresql.org/" target=3D"_blank"=
>lists.postgresql.org</a>.
  </p>
 =20
+ <h3>Unsubscribing from a PostgreSQL Mailing List</h3>
+=20
+ <p>
+ You can manage your subscriptions and unsubscribe from our mailing lists =
at <a href=3D"https://lists.postgresql.org/" target=3D"_blank">lists.postgr=
esql.org</a>.
+ </p>
+=20
  <h2>Mailing List Archives</h2>
 =20
  <p>The PostgreSQL Mailing list public archives provide a rich history of =
the PostgreSQL project, all the way back to 1997! We keep a public record o=
f the mailing list to help provide a searchable resource to help answer you=
r questions, as well as in the spirit of building an open community.</p>

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