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* Missing recent email in archives
@ 2021-12-17 14:42  Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2021-12-17 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-www

Is something wrong with the email archives?  I recevied this email
today:

	Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 09:41:32 +0000
	From: Chris Lowder <[email protected]>
	To: [email protected], Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
	Message-ID: <[email protected]>
	In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
	Subject: Re: 11.7. Indexes on Expressions

and usually I can search it almost immediately in the PG email archives,
but this returns a not found error:

	https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/[email protected]

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  <[email protected]>        https://momjian.us
  EDB                                      https://enterprisedb.com

  If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.






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* Re: Missing recent email in archives
@ 2021-12-17 15:33  Greg Stark <[email protected]>
  parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread

From: Greg Stark @ 2021-12-17 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www

I was about to reply saying I didn't get any such message but it
literally just arrived just now.





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* Re: Missing recent email in archives
@ 2021-12-17 15:38  Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread

From: Tom Lane @ 2021-12-17 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www

Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> writes:
> Is something wrong with the email archives?  I recevied this email
> today:
> and usually I can search it almost immediately in the PG email archives,
> but this returns a not found error:

Looks like it was held for moderation ...

			regards, tom lane





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* Re: Missing recent email in archives
@ 2021-12-17 15:38  Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
  parent: Greg Stark <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread

From: Alvaro Herrera @ 2021-12-17 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Greg Stark <[email protected]>; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

On 2021-Dec-17, Greg Stark wrote:

> I was about to reply saying I didn't get any such message but it
> literally just arrived just now.

Ah, so what happened is that Bruce was too quick to request that URL
from the website before the email was approved by the mailing list
moderators, and since it wasn't found the negative response was cached
by the website frontends.  I have just purged it from the cache and now
it seems to work okay.

-- 
Álvaro Herrera              Valdivia, Chile  —  https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/
"Puedes vivir sólo una vez, pero si lo haces bien, una vez es suficiente"





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* Re: Missing recent email in archives
@ 2021-12-17 15:41  Greg Stark <[email protected]>
  parent: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread

From: Greg Stark @ 2021-12-17 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

It looks like it was held up on the mail server named
malur.postgresql.org for ... quite a while. From 9:41 GMT to 15:24 GMT
or nearly 6 hours?

Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by
malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from
<[email protected]>) id
1myF6Q-0007ii-2K for [email protected]; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 15:24:58 +0000
Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by
malur.postgresql.org with esmtps
(TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from
<[email protected]>) id 1my9kD-0001mu-7e for
[email protected]; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 09:41:41 +0000





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* Re: Missing recent email in archives
@ 2021-12-17 16:03  Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
  parent: Greg Stark <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread

From: Alvaro Herrera @ 2021-12-17 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Greg Stark <[email protected]>; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

On 2021-Dec-17, Greg Stark wrote:

> It looks like it was held up on the mail server named
> malur.postgresql.org for ... quite a while. From 9:41 GMT to 15:24 GMT
> or nearly 6 hours?

Yeah, malur is the mailing list server.  That would be the wait for a
moderator to approve it.

-- 
Álvaro Herrera           39°49'30"S 73°17'W  —  https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/
"Uno puede defenderse de los ataques; contra los elogios se esta indefenso"





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* Re: Missing recent email in archives
@ 2021-12-17 16:16  Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  parent: Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2021-12-17 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 10:38:00AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> writes:
> > Is something wrong with the email archives?  I received this email
> > today:
> > and usually I can search it almost immediately in the PG email archives,
> > but this returns a not found error:
> 
> Looks like it was held for moderation ...

OK, thanks.  I figured there must be a reason, but I couldn't figure it
out.

PgLife (https://pglife.momjian.us/) shows the most recent email at the
time _I_ receive it.  Seems PgLife will have a problem when there is a
mismatch between when I receive the email and when it is archived.  If I
received my personal copy and the email list copy, I could trigger only
on the second, but I have nocc set.  Anyway, I think I am okay with this
failing occasionally, now that I know the cause.  Thanks.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  <[email protected]>        https://momjian.us
  EDB                                      https://enterprisedb.com

  If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.






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* Re: Missing recent email in archives
@ 2021-12-17 17:09  Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
  parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread

From: Alvaro Herrera @ 2021-12-17 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

On 2021-Dec-17, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> PgLife (https://pglife.momjian.us/) shows the most recent email at the
> time _I_ receive it.  Seems PgLife will have a problem when there is a
> mismatch between when I receive the email and when it is archived.  If I
> received my personal copy and the email list copy, I could trigger only
> on the second, but I have nocc set.  Anyway, I think I am okay with this
> failing occasionally, now that I know the cause.  Thanks.

Maybe for something like pglife, you should only consider emails that
have the 'Archived-At' header set.

-- 
Álvaro Herrera           39°49'30"S 73°17'W  —  https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/





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* Re: Missing recent email in archives
@ 2021-12-17 17:33  Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  parent: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2021-12-17 17:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>; +Cc: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 02:09:06PM -0300, Álvaro Herrera wrote:
> On 2021-Dec-17, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> 
> > PgLife (https://pglife.momjian.us/) shows the most recent email at the
> > time _I_ receive it.  Seems PgLife will have a problem when there is a
> > mismatch between when I receive the email and when it is archived.  If I
> > received my personal copy and the email list copy, I could trigger only
> > on the second, but I have nocc set.  Anyway, I think I am okay with this
> > failing occasionally, now that I know the cause.  Thanks.
> 
> Maybe for something like pglife, you should only consider emails that
> have the 'Archived-At' header set.

Yes, I thought about that, but I am afraid that emails only to me would
not appear in PgLife since I have the I currently _only_ get the
non-archived email, and if I turn off "Don't receive an extra copy of
mails when listed in To or CC fields" then I have to filter them out on
my end, which might be complex.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  <[email protected]>        https://momjian.us
  EDB                                      https://enterprisedb.com

  If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.







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