Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rKTUc-002q18-H8 for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2024 01:22:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rKTUY-00DgUf-7c for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2024 01:22:50 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rKTUY-00DgUX-0S for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2024 01:22:50 +0000 Received: from janus.karlpinc.com ([173.161.46.12] helo=smtp.karlpinc.com) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rKTUU-00F4WU-TL for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2024 01:22:49 +0000 Received: from slate.karlpinc.com (unknown [192.168.1.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.karlpinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED6BEA6E2; Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:22:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from slate.karlpinc.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by slate.karlpinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B40533FD53; Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:22:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:22:42 -0600 From: "Karl O. Pinc" To: Adrian Klaver Cc: "Jonathan S. Katz" , Benjamin Scherrey , pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org, Vik Fearing , Bruce Momjian , Tom Lane Subject: Re: Describing Postgres as "object-relational" on the home page Message-ID: <20240101192242.608a25cb@slate.karlpinc.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20231226131047.493259f8@slate.karlpinc.com> <20231228135446.3ba508d5@slate.karlpinc.com> <20231231114052.30eccee6@slate.karlpinc.com> <20240101134459.0d23672b@slate.karlpinc.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 14:58:47 -0800 Adrian Klaver wrote: > On 1/1/24 11:44, Karl O. Pinc wrote: > > On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 14:40:49 -0500 > > "Jonathan S. Katz" wrote: > > >> I don't really follow what you're suggesting here. > > > > The suggestion here is to first, change the "object-relational" > > sentence as has been discussed. (Then, tl,dr; use a interactive > > "word cloud") But instead of coming up with wording describing > > functionality, workloads, etc., to simply say "PostgrSQL does lots > > more stuff." on the home page and link that to a page with nothing > > but keywords. The keywords can be linked to descriptions or project > > pages, or not. > > > > That way nobody has to write sentences, and more importantly, nobody > > has to maintain much when there's a new hot technology or > > figure out what's important enough to put on the home page. Just > > add a new keyword to the keywords page. (Especially labor free if > > the keyword page is a pg wiki page.) > > > > To extend this idea, just a list of keywords is not engaging. > > Categorizing the keywords by attaching one or more tags to each > > opens up possibilities for interaction and alternate ways to view > > the keywords. In particular the user can find keywords by tag and > > so keywords need not be categorized in a fixed fashion. > > This would likely only be interesting if the keywords were linked to > > somewhere so that after getting a relevant set of keywords > > the reader could follow the links to find information or tools. > > Please no, this is just another version of word salad. Maybe so. Though it seems common and useful to have one thing categorized into multiple categories. I think categories guide the inquisitive. But this is all useless hand-waving, at least for me, because I'm not volunteering to do the work. Apologies if I've taken too much of your time. Regards, Karl Free Software: "You don't pay back, you pay forward." -- Robert A. Heinlein