Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1AE634236 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:55:39 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41006-06 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:55:36 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us (sss.pgh.pa.us [66.207.139.130]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E196341D9 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:55:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: from sss2.sss.pgh.pa.us (tgl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3GGtUAK020305; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:55:30 -0400 (EDT) To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: Magnus Hagander , Dave Page , PostgreSQL www Subject: Re: Archives policy In-reply-to: <20090416134300.C84471@hub.org> References: <937d27e10904160107t6406b64cxddec956619c3374@mail.gmail.com> <16454.1239890476@sss.pgh.pa.us> <937d27e10904160705y3f59662r3161d9bcd0add30b@mail.gmail.com> <17154.1239892401@sss.pgh.pa.us> <50A2A5D1-E994-4C31-9C69-BDD068CA5E30@hagander.net> <20090416134300.C84471@hub.org> Comments: In-reply-to "Marc G. Fournier" message dated "Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:45:18 -0300" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:55:30 -0400 Message-ID: <20304.1239900930@sss.pgh.pa.us> From: Tom Lane X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=none X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200904/77 X-Sequence-Number: 16944 "Marc G. Fournier" writes: > On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Magnus Hagander wrote: >> Illegal in the united states ATM because that's where the server is. We >> have no choice there. > Then we'll need to move the server ... the raw mail archives are *not* in > the US, and are not subject to their laws ... Moving the server just means there's some different set of laws to worry about; Canadian or Panamanian or wherever. One set might be more or less friendly to us but I don't think we are going to choose our server locations on that basis. The real point in my mind is that mentioning any such consideration in our posted policy just encourages people to try legal threats first (as I gather occurred recently to prompt Dave to worry about this topic at all). If they actually have a basis for such threats they'll think of it soon enough; we don't need to encourage it via a posted policy. regards, tom lane