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* archives.postgresql.org not responding
@ 2008-06-21 17:57 Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-21 18:01 ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread

From: Tom Lane @ 2008-06-21 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-www

I've been seeing connection timeouts for the last little while ...

			regards, tom lane



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* Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding
  2008-06-21 17:57 archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-21 18:01 ` Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:14   ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread

From: Stefan Kaltenbrunner @ 2008-06-21 18:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www

Tom Lane wrote:
> I've been seeing connection timeouts for the last little while ...

AFAIK - currently there is maintainance work going on at the CMD hosting 
facility besides archives also search,planet and the buildfarm are down 
currently  ...


Stefan



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* Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding
  2008-06-21 17:57 archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-21 18:01 ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-22 06:14   ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:45     ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-06-22 06:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; +Cc: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> I've been seeing connection timeouts for the last little while ...
> 
> AFAIK - currently there is maintainance work going on at the CMD hosting 
> facility besides archives also search,planet and the buildfarm are down 
> currently  ...

Longer than expected, but everything should be up but buildfarm. I am 
out of caffeine at this point but will look at buildfarm first thing in 
the morning.

Joshua D. Drake

> 
> 
> Stefan
> 




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* Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding
  2008-06-21 17:57 archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-21 18:01 ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:14   ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-22 06:45     ` Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 19:43       ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 21:43       ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Robert Treat <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread

From: Tom Lane @ 2008-06-22 06:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

"Joshua D. Drake" <[email protected]> writes:
> Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
>> Tom Lane wrote:
>>> I've been seeing connection timeouts for the last little while ...
>> 
>> AFAIK - currently there is maintainance work going on at the CMD hosting 
>> facility besides archives also search,planet and the buildfarm are down 
>> currently  ...

> Longer than expected, but everything should be up but buildfarm. I am 
> out of caffeine at this point but will look at buildfarm first thing in 
> the morning.

Fully understand about lack of caffeine --- but if this was a planned
service outage, some advance notice to pgsql-www would've been
appropriate, no?  Or did I just miss it?

			regards, tom lane



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* Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding
  2008-06-21 17:57 archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-21 18:01 ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:14   ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:45     ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-22 19:43       ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-06-22 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; +Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

Tom Lane wrote:
> "Joshua D. Drake" <[email protected]> writes:
>> Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
>>> Tom Lane wrote:

> Fully understand about lack of caffeine --- but if this was a planned
> service outage, some advance notice to pgsql-www would've been
> appropriate, no?  Or did I just miss it?

I sent it to sysadmins, but your point is taken. I will send to both in 
the future.

Joshua D. Drake





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* Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding
  2008-06-21 17:57 archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-21 18:01 ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:14   ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:45     ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-22 21:43       ` Robert Treat <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 22:05         ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread

From: Robert Treat @ 2008-06-22 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-www; +Cc: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>

On Sunday 22 June 2008 02:45:07 Tom Lane wrote:
> "Joshua D. Drake" <[email protected]> writes:
> > Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
> >> Tom Lane wrote:
> >>> I've been seeing connection timeouts for the last little while ...
> >>
> >> AFAIK - currently there is maintainance work going on at the CMD hosting
> >> facility besides archives also search,planet and the buildfarm are down
> >> currently  ...
> >
> > Longer than expected, but everything should be up but buildfarm. I am
> > out of caffeine at this point but will look at buildfarm first thing in
> > the morning.
>
> Fully understand about lack of caffeine --- but if this was a planned
> service outage, some advance notice to pgsql-www would've been
> appropriate, no?  Or did I just miss it?
>

He sent notice to sysadmins, but not pgsql-www. I'm not sure what the policy 
is, but seems like it might be good to send these outage notices to a more 
public list as well. (For example, there is currently a notice from Marc 
about doing maintanance on mail.postgresql.org which I believe was supposed 
to happen last night, though we haven't recieved a followup mail yet)

-- 
Robert Treat
Build A Brighter LAMP :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL



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* Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding
  2008-06-21 17:57 archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-21 18:01 ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:14   ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:45     ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 21:43       ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Robert Treat <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-22 22:05         ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 22:22           ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 22:43           ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread

From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2008-06-22 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Robert Treat <[email protected]>; pgsql-www; +Cc: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>

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If it involves web infrastructure (ie. archives.postgresql.org), it should go 
to pgsql-www ... if it involves non-web infrastructure (ie. ftp) it should go 
to sysadmins ...


- --On Sunday, June 22, 2008 17:43:13 -0400 Robert Treat 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sunday 22 June 2008 02:45:07 Tom Lane wrote:
>> "Joshua D. Drake" <[email protected]> writes:
>> > Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
>> >> Tom Lane wrote:
>> >>> I've been seeing connection timeouts for the last little while ...
>> >>
>> >> AFAIK - currently there is maintainance work going on at the CMD hosting
>> >> facility besides archives also search,planet and the buildfarm are down
>> >> currently  ...
>> >
>> > Longer than expected, but everything should be up but buildfarm. I am
>> > out of caffeine at this point but will look at buildfarm first thing in
>> > the morning.
>>
>> Fully understand about lack of caffeine --- but if this was a planned
>> service outage, some advance notice to pgsql-www would've been
>> appropriate, no?  Or did I just miss it?
>>
>
> He sent notice to sysadmins, but not pgsql-www. I'm not sure what the policy
> is, but seems like it might be good to send these outage notices to a more
> public list as well. (For example, there is currently a notice from Marc
> about doing maintanance on mail.postgresql.org which I believe was supposed
> to happen last night, though we haven't recieved a followup mail yet)
>
> --
> Robert Treat
> Build A Brighter LAMP :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
>
> --
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> To make changes to your subscription:
> http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-www



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* Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding
  2008-06-21 17:57 archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-21 18:01 ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:14   ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:45     ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 21:43       ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Robert Treat <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 22:05         ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-22 22:22           ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-06-22 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Robert Treat <[email protected]>; pgsql-www; Tom Lane <[email protected]>; Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>

Marc G. Fournier wrote:
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> 
> If it involves web infrastructure (ie. archives.postgresql.org), it should go 
> to pgsql-www ... if it involves non-web infrastructure (ie. ftp) it should go 
> to sysadmins ...

Yeah, like I said, next time I will just email both. There are too many 
"other" facets to what you just said.

Joshua D. Drake



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* Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding
  2008-06-21 17:57 archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-21 18:01 ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:14   ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:45     ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 21:43       ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Robert Treat <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 22:05         ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-22 22:43           ` Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-23 01:48             ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread

From: Tom Lane @ 2008-06-22 22:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Robert Treat <[email protected]>; pgsql-www; Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>

"Marc G. Fournier" <[email protected]> writes:
> If it involves web infrastructure (ie. archives.postgresql.org), it
> should go to pgsql-www ... if it involves non-web infrastructure
> (ie. ftp) it should go to sysadmins ...

Well, the point to me is that planned outages should be announced
somewhere where non-admins can see them.  Which service is involved
shouldn't determine that.

			regards, tom lane



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* Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding
  2008-06-21 17:57 archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-21 18:01 ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:14   ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 06:45     ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 21:43       ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Robert Treat <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 22:05         ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  2008-06-22 22:43           ` Re: archives.postgresql.org not responding Tom Lane <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-23 01:48             ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2008-06-23 01:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Robert Treat <[email protected]>; pgsql-www; Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>

Tom Lane wrote:
> "Marc G. Fournier" <[email protected]> writes:
> > If it involves web infrastructure (ie. archives.postgresql.org), it
> > should go to pgsql-www ... if it involves non-web infrastructure
> > (ie. ftp) it should go to sysadmins ...
> 
> Well, the point to me is that planned outages should be announced
> somewhere where non-admins can see them.  Which service is involved
> shouldn't determine that.

Agreed.  There should be a join-able list that will tell us about such
things.  I can't join sysadmins to find out about outages, and www seems
to fit that role fine.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  <[email protected]>        http://momjian.us
  EnterpriseDB                             http://enterprisedb.com

  + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +




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