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Subject: Re: Add AIX on the PostgreSQL Download page
From: Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 18:21:33 +0200
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> On 7 Sep 2021, at 17:07, Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> =
wrote:
>=20
> On 9/7/21 10:57 AM, Dave Page wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 3:26 PM Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se
>> <mailto:daniel@yesql.se>> wrote:
>>=20
>>> On 7 Sep 2021, at 16:10, Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org
>>    <mailto:jkatz@postgresql.org>> wrote:
>=20
>>> I'd be more open to this if the packages themselves were hosted on
>>> community infrastructure and were consistent with the rest of the
>>> packaging projects.
>>=20
>>    That seems a high bar to cross given that we don=E2=80=99t host =
macOS,
>>    Windows and the
>>    BSD=E2=80=99s today but link to those.
>>=20
>> I agree.
>=20
> It doesn't mean we need to continue to exacerbate the situation by
> linking to downloads that we have little control over.
>=20
> For example, what happens when the external downloads are unavailable?
> We had a recent incident where this exact scenario happened. There are
> now some reporting mechanisms in place to handle that scenario, but
> ultimately it comes back to "PostgreSQL is unavailable for download."

That is an argument against any outbound links though.  Not having the
information in the first place doesn=E2=80=99t seem to make PostgreSQL =
more available
than the risk of an intermittent 404.

I don=E2=80=99t have strong feelings wrt AIX, nor insights into the =
current proposal,
but limiting the offering based on what has been effectively =
grandfathered in
based on fears about future shortcomings in network availability =
doesn=E2=80=99t seem
to improve user friendliness.  Having the packages on offer in the first =
place,
as discussed downthread, is another matter though and a very real one.

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