Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gkVtR-00055h-5S for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 15:17:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gkVtP-0005xN-V5 for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 15:17:11 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gkVtP-0005xF-Pa for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 15:17:11 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gkVtN-0002aV-9C; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 15:17:11 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x0IFH2Xs024597; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:17:02 -0500 From: Tom Lane To: Stephen Frost cc: Magnus Hagander , Dimitri Fontaine , Alvaro Herrera , Andres Freund , "Jonathan S. Katz" , PostgreSQL WWW Subject: Re: mailing list redirect for bug numbers? In-reply-to: <20190118143505.GN2528@tamriel.snowman.net> References: <201901162154.tg6vsmfylacs@alvherre.pgsql> <20190117154202.GH2528@tamriel.snowman.net> <20190117182821.GK2528@tamriel.snowman.net> <22663.1547759616@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190118143505.GN2528@tamriel.snowman.net> Comments: In-reply-to Stephen Frost message dated "Fri, 18 Jan 2019 09:35:05 -0500" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24595.1547824622.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:17:02 -0500 Message-ID: <24596.1547824622@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Stephen Frost writes: > * Tom Lane (tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote: >> Agreed. If we have bug numbers assigned to messages that aren't bugs, >> or are replies to bugs, it's just going to be a mess. > In my suggestion, replies to bugs that are sent by a sensible MUA would > have the bug # of the bug being replied to- Uh, how? Assuming that "your suggestion" refers to the 'X-Pg-BugId' idea, I think the chances of that being included in replies are nil. > In other words, we'd add a header like: > X-PG-MessageId: 123453 > And then be able to use links like: > https://postgr.es/p/pgsql-hackers/123453 Seems like this is reinventing message-ids, and not very well either, since copies received via a direct cc: rather than via the list would lack the field. (Hence, you're mistaken to claim this would be locally searchable.) > Just to wrap this up, what I'm trying to get at is that I'd rather we > try to solve for the specific issue that came up rather than building a > solution on something that's already only a partial answer to begin > with, in that we often want to link from the commits to discussions on > -hackers or to emails to -bugs that didn't have a bug # and those aren't > addressed with this particular approach. The existing solution is "use the message-id", and that seems to work well enough. Yes, gmail's message-ids are annoyingly long, but that seems like only a cosmetic objection. I'm not seeing anything here that really looks like it'd be an improvement. regards, tom lane