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From: Tom Lane <[email protected]>
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>
Cc: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
Cc: Kevin Grittner <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Some restructuring of the download section
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:40:15 -0400
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Dave Page <[email protected]> writes:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Magnus Hagander <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Uh, that part is just incorrect. Several sets of platform packages
>> certainly do initdb for you. And AFAIK every single one of them on
>> Linux at least do service setup for you.

> Hmm, clearly it's been a while since I did a PG installation on Debian
> (oddly!), as that does seem to leave the server up and running. I'm
> fairly certain it didn't in the past.
> RPMs on the other hand, do not.

FWIW, Red-Hat-based systems have a strong distro policy against starting
servers merely because the package got installed --- the theory is that
an "everything" install should not leave the user running a bunch of
servers he doesn't know about and maybe hasn't configured securely.

I'm a bit surprised to hear that Debian does it differently; although
it's possible that they distinguish manual from automatic install
scenarios.  It's a little bit saner to do an auto service start if you
know that the user explicitly requested this specific package.

			regards, tom lane

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