X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8632ED1B9AA; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 18:14:19 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76236-10; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 18:14:19 -0300 (ADT) Received: from gnarzelwicht.delirium-arts.de (mail.delirium-arts.de [195.143.204.190]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C773ED1B98D; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 18:14:16 -0300 (ADT) Received: from gnarzelwicht.delirium-arts.de (gnarzelwicht.delirium-arts.de [195.143.204.190]) by gnarzelwicht.delirium-arts.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860CB7CEC2; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 23:14:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 23:14:17 +0200 From: Alvar Freude To: pgsql@mohawksoft.com, Bruce Momjian Cc: PostgreSQL-development , PostgreSQL advocacy Subject: Re: [HACKERS] What can we learn from MySQL? Message-ID: <309340000.1082754857@gnarzelwicht.delirium-arts.de> In-Reply-To: <17951.24.91.171.78.1082752617.squirrel@mail.mohawksoft.com> References: <200404230409.i3N49jC02890@candle.pha.pa.us> <17951.24.91.171.78.1082752617.squirrel@mail.mohawksoft.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0 (Linux/x86 Demo) X-message-flag: SECURITY ALERT: Outlook is a security risk. Really. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200404/231 X-Sequence-Number: 4203 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, - -- pgsql@mohawksoft.com wrote: > I would say this is a clear 'NO!' When ever I read about open-source being > used anywhere, I always read MySQL. They are *very* good at this. yes! Some days ago, there was a news in the Heise Newsticker (most important IT news in germany), about MySQL clustering. http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/46511 "4*2 processors with 100000 replicated transactions per second" was the main statement. I'm sure, that this is the typical MySQL blabla: no transactions, but select statements ...=20 I'm not sure, if iot is a good idea to go down with the niveau to such lies. >> o Are we focused enough on ease-of-use issues? >=20 > Again, NO! To often you guys settle for a work-around rather than a > feature. You are satisfied that symlinks will do the job. When someone > says they want a feature, you say, no - use a symlink. [...] yes, you are right! One additional thing: when updating from 7.x to 7.y, a new initdb is needed. This means: If I have some GB Data, the RDBMS is some ours down for upgrading. This is really no good situation. There should be a way for converting the storage on the fly: Updating and let postgres do the rest automaically. I guess this is not really easy; but it is important! Ciao Alvar - --=20 ** Alvar C.H. Freude -- http://alvar.a-blast.org/ -- http://odem.org/ ** Berufsverbot? http://odem.org/aktuelles/staatsanwalt.de.html ** ODEM.org-Tour: http://tour.odem.org/ **=A05 Jahre Blaster:=A0http://www.a-blast.de/ | http://www.a-blast.de/stat= istik/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAiYcpOndlH63J86wRAoj7AKCt+SXIV/1UYa7hZlEpA1SrwpctnQCgpypM 2L5aRteQ7btVuBowcclBc28=3D =3DPOHj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----