X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1797032A08F for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:57:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 75621-10 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:57:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (mproxy.gmail.com [216.239.56.247]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E5632A0AF for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:57:09 +0100 (BST) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id w67so292968cwb for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.117.63 with SMTP id p63mr525274cwc; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.119.12 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <330532b604092918576a06aaa2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:57:05 -0400 From: Mitch Pirtle Reply-To: Mitch Pirtle To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Server unreliability In-Reply-To: <64f2b1140449efdaa79c34b2fe010e5a@biglumber.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20040929143454.A93533@ganymede.hub.org> <64f2b1140449efdaa79c34b2fe010e5a@biglumber.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200409/226 X-Sequence-Number: 5469 On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:16:26 -0000, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > > > So far, I've had one person donate $10 ... in order to put a dedicated > > server onto the network, I'd need alot more of those Then perhaps a different approach needs to be taken? > FWIW, I've been more than willing to put my money where my mouth is, > but as long as we have banner ads all over out site, I'm not willing > to provide money. I seem to recall that people offered to offset the > costs of the banner ads earlier, but the discusion never got anywhere, > mostly because nobody could produce the amount that the banner ads > brought in. I use Adblock for FireFox, and as a Gen Xer I don't see them anyway ;-) > As far as suggestions, why not all chip in and get a nice dedicated server > in a centralized place (e.g. Washington DC), get it up and running, > and migrate things over one by one. This was my thought initially, and servers themselves are actually quite cheap (at ~$99 each) - that is why I asked about bandwidth usage, as I believe this would be the cost factor. For example, Server Beach (www.serverbeach.com) gives you a dedicated machine for $99 monthly, and despite them being single processor machines, we could have a dedicated webserver, dedicated database server, and dedicated ftp/mail/whatever for ~$300... I'm getting dual-xeons at aPlus.net for $200 or so, but I don't know if PostgreSQL would need that kind of hardware if we could have several servers. Thoughts? Discuss. ;-)