X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B103A3E74 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:34:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65929-06 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:34:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (mproxy.gmail.com [216.239.56.247]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDA03A3E53 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:34:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id w67so85845cwb for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:34:48 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=mmTTYCbxFF0oj4H1HB854SNJ26nCG02V69H8l3RdIw07X6fxDuRPq1OKffdS1Wond5Z6zmjQGbo4tNjGvU87nXqkkfGBaW1IQ6G7ZqX3oypBjFRV79ex2hQxIjpvXaf14ZnacQ81oG1TPP/BB01J7mtzLlvypC5qC3ddLlaP7uI= Received: by 10.11.117.22 with SMTP id p22mr276445cwc; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.11.119.55 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:34:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <330532b60411211334276bd3e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:34:48 -0500 From: Mitch Pirtle Reply-To: Mitch Pirtle To: PostgreSQL www Subject: Re: "Stretchy" vs. Fixed-width In-Reply-To: <200411211407.14499.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200411181953.10646.josh@agliodbs.com> <20041120225913.C18806@ganymede.hub.org> <330532b60411210730781d08bd@mail.gmail.com> <200411211407.14499.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200411/305 X-Sequence-Number: 6036 Let's not confuse opinion with fact here. Whether you like fixed width or variable is opinion. Multicolumn text becoming unreadable when the column widths are not controlled is a fact. Anyone can design a layout that stretches to utilize all available screen real estate. But that doesn't mean that the aesthetics or usability remains constant as the layout dramatically changes - it either looks great at larger sizes (and lousy on small ones), or great on small sizes (and lousy on large ones). I personally don't have a preference, but can say there are some very, VERY intelligent people who have put a tremendous amount of time and effort in order to learn what does and does not work. Perhaps the pundits on C|Net or eWeek are the 'idiots' that you effortlessly categorize, but there are also professionals out there that have expertise that is significantly superior to anyone on this list. -- Mitch, knowing when his expertise reaches its limits (hint hint) On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:07:14 -0500, Robert Treat wrote: > Thats because most "professionally-trained" designers are idiots when it comes > to web design. They want to create artwork like on TV's and magazines > (because what they really want to be are graphic artists), and they don't > understand that the web is a different medium. Different users have > different monitor sizes, and the view text in different font-sizes, and they > will even view the new website in different languagues. Anyone who has study > web usability will understand that trying to force your viewpoint of a design > on someone else just leads to trouble.