Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcgw-00055m-WF for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:07:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcgw-00070m-0G for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:07:18 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcgv-00070b-Ee for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:07:17 +0000 Received: from meldrar.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::31]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcgt-0002w4-In for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:07:17 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=postgresql.org; s=20171124; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:References:Cc:To:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=A/1jxuNnpYO15BrcPggGZkWpukDyGTcs+ptqSpE1wZk=; b=0P4qPwL9QdffGAjF5911+rs3ZG rHAyzTVERHzHdbmsIRuagTq2e1PkvKEeeP7Hh7Zv9xw55OladpfQoRws+E85LGtYZo9rSFt995di1 9YK2YSfradqGrQyfL26zIh37NsHgom4ivk3MKSwmIKpll1v9x3QS4DlyBOVDXlM7KR/I4QZJ8SlPO YEXKduNfjPk2ztjOXVzLcp6MIqd78NV3fpn2YRKrLlMq5JjtgqQxRJ8wJFIalWpD5yMt5vGJZTPDk SLR4Ft9T2TazIuevEWTvCi4rTe2oHDvjNVPHsMHTdtmI8J9sp1wGi9z0OKj54qLfDrIDkmc8s4/XS 73SYM5ZA==; Received: from [52.119.84.106] (helo=Ph33rHippo.local) by meldrar.postgresql.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcgr-0002yN-72; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:07:15 +0000 To: Dave Page , Daniel Gustafsson Cc: "REIX, Tony" , "pgsql-www@postgresql.org" References: <7DE7DFFE-0F63-4E10-9F58-AF0538AEEB54@yesql.se> From: "Jonathan S. Katz" Subject: Re: Add AIX on the PostgreSQL Download page Message-ID: <352d5e7a-813d-c382-6ed6-8c90a32d8395@postgresql.org> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 11:07:10 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RpCkiAyViDWXp4RT1sr01v3PmGFG0wA6N" X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 52.119.84.106 (failed) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --RpCkiAyViDWXp4RT1sr01v3PmGFG0wA6N Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="mLT4eH5xkKvmwkCC5HwslWpxFJlgmUzNt"; protected-headers="v1" From: "Jonathan S. Katz" To: Dave Page , Daniel Gustafsson Cc: "REIX, Tony" , "pgsql-www@postgresql.org" Message-ID: <352d5e7a-813d-c382-6ed6-8c90a32d8395@postgresql.org> Subject: Re: Add AIX on the PostgreSQL Download page References: <7DE7DFFE-0F63-4E10-9F58-AF0538AEEB54@yesql.se> In-Reply-To: --mLT4eH5xkKvmwkCC5HwslWpxFJlgmUzNt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 9/7/21 10:57 AM, Dave Page wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 3:26 PM Daniel Gustafsson > wrote: >=20 > > On 7 Sep 2021, at 16:10, Jonathan S. Katz > wrote: > > I'd be more open to this if the packages themselves were hosted o= n > > community infrastructure and were consistent with the rest of the= > > packaging projects. >=20 > That seems a high bar to cross given that we don=E2=80=99t host mac= OS, > Windows and the > BSD=E2=80=99s today but link to those. >=20 >=20 > I agree. It doesn't mean we need to continue to exacerbate the situation by linking to downloads that we have little control over. For example, what happens when the external downloads are unavailable? We had a recent incident where this exact scenario happened. There are now some reporting mechanisms in place to handle that scenario, but ultimately it comes back to "PostgreSQL is unavailable for download." > > Right now I'm -1 on this; additionally, I'm > > generally -1 to adding more additional offsite links to downloads= =2E >=20 > Unrelated but semi-related, if we don=E2=80=99t want new links we s= hould > probably > remove the Solaris download link which doesn=E2=80=99t even link to= downloadable > packages. >=20 >=20 > +1=20 IIRC we had left that up so we could sunset it and provide "forwarding information." Given it's been ~1 year, we could likely remove it. 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