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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 14:33:27 -0400
From: "Jonah H. Harris" <jonah.harris@gmail.com>
To: "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Further SPI
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I have to agree with Josh, this is pretty lame.  It would be a real
PITA for somone who hadn't done it before.  Isn't there anyone else we
can go through for this?

On 4/8/06, Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Let me first say that I know the intent of the SPI is good and I did
> vote for the transition to it. However as I see the implementation of
> its abilities I am embarrased.
>
> Here is the current way to donate via SPI to PostgreSQL online:
>
> 1. Via web browser use the following path: http://www.spi-inc.org/
>
> 2. Look all around the page to see blue on blue hyper link called
> "Donations" on the right hand page.
>
> 3. Click "Donations" : http://www.spi-inc.org/donations
>
> 4. Click "Donations of Money" which is an internal page ref that drops
> down the page to "Donations of Money" informational paragraphs.
>
> Read through paragraphs, see that I can "mail a check" (we just lost 90%
> of our ability to receive a donation).
>
> Further reading shows that we can click on a "Donate Now through the
> network of good"... Who the heck is this? I thought I was donating
> through SPI?
>
> 5. Click "Donate Now through the network of good" even though I don't
> know them, the page does say.... "If I have a credit card from a
> financial instituion in the United States". So I am assuming they are a
> broker of some sort.
>
> 6. Once I click on the "Donate Now through the network of good" I am
> taken to: "Donate Now through the network of good". Which still says not
> one thing about PostgreSQL but does give me a nice link about donating
> to SPI and a nice big button that says "Donate Now".
>
> 7. Click "Donate Now", I am taken to a page that allows me to donate to
> SPI but says nothing about PostgreSQL.
>
> I am able to "Designate" or "Dedication or Gift". Which means I could
> write in the name PostgreSQL and in theory PostgreSQL would see the
> donation.
>
> What if I type in Postgres, Pg, PSQL, or PGSQL?
> What if I mispel it? You can't make "assumptions" with people's money.
> What if I say, PostgreSQL + Debian?
>
> At this point I am going to close my browser and forget about it. Most
> others will close their browser and forget about it at number 4. or 5 if
> they even get that far.
>
> Donated via SPI should be one button/link and one button link only. You
> should have two options:
>
> 1. Send a check/money order
> 2. Via Credit Card (US card holders only)
>
> The first link should take them to a page that describes in no more than
> 5 or 6 sentences how to send a check.
>
> The second link should take them to a page that says:
>
> Donate to PostgreSQL Project
> Enter Amount
> Enter Credit Card Information / Create account.
>
> Anymore then that and we have cut our own wrists with donations.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Joshua D. Drake
>
>
>
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