X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7978D1DAA0 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 07:28:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 35971-08 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 03:28:39 -0400 (AST) Received: from ngate.rdw.ru (mail.rdw.ru [195.42.172.4]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAA72D1DAA7 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 03:28:31 -0400 (AST) Received: (qmail 26792 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2004 07:28:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rdw.ru) (192.168.0.57) by ngate.rdw.ru with SMTP; 15 Feb 2004 07:28:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 26226 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2004 07:22:01 -0000 Received: from ppp01.rdw.ru (HELO cs.msu.su) ([192.168.0.7]) (envelope-sender ) by rdw.ru (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Feb 2004 07:22:00 -0000 Message-ID: <402F1FA7.5060407@cs.msu.su> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:28:39 +0300 From: Alexey Borzov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: ru, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Costa Cc: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org, "Marc G. Fournier" , "Joshua D. Drake" Subject: Re: PHP/Postgresql Advocacy References: <20040214161726.Y96890@ganymede.hub.org> <402E8FBE.20901@cs.msu.su> <2D9A949E-5F35-11D8-B468-000A95EB456A@dotgeek.org> In-Reply-To: <2D9A949E-5F35-11D8-B468-000A95EB456A@dotgeek.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Archive-Number: 200402/146 X-Sequence-Number: 3717 Hi! David Costa wrote: > Oh no, now we are "show me where..." stage... > > Ehi look how much time is going wasted in this discussion. > > Marc summarized your previous posts on the www list where the tone was > all but cordial. > > For one, saying that the current website is an "abomination" was > offensive to the volunteers who did > this in their own available spare time. You know that. But let's move > on, we are all wasting time with arguments. Of course you and Joshua are right, and I won't pursue this discussion. I only want to point out some fairly obvious things: 1) There is a subtle difference between critisizing someone's work and atacking someone personally. 2) Lots of people, including myself, do Open Source work in their spare time and as volunteers. This is not an excuse for doing this work badly and for inability to listen to the critique.