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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:47:31 +0200
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To: Karel Zak <zakkr@zf.jcu.cz>
Cc: David Garamond <lists@zara.6.isreserved.com>,
	Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>,
	PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>,
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Subject: Re: [HACKERS] What can we learn from MySQL?
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Karel Zak wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 01:05:21PM +0700, David Garamond wrote:
> 
>>So in my opinion, as long as the general awareness about RDBMS (on what 
>>tasks/responsibilities it should do, what features it generally has to 
>>have, etc) is low, people will be looking at MySQL as "good enough" and 
>>will not be motivated to look around for something better. As a 
>>comparison, I'm always amazed by people who use Windows 95/98/Me. They 
>>find it normal/"good enough" that the system crashes every now and then, 
>>has to be rebooted every few hours (or every time they install 
>>something). They don't know of anything better.
> 
> 
>  Agree. People don't know that an RDBMS can be more better.
> 
>  A lot of users think speed  is the most important thing. And they check
>  the performance  of SQL server by  "time mysql -e "SELECT..."  but they
>  don't know something about concurrency or locking.


Even worse: They benchmark "SELECT 1+1" one million times.
The performance of "SELECT 1+1" has NOTHING to do with the REAL 
performance of a database.
Has anybody seen the benchmarks on MySQL??? They have benchmarked 
"CREATE TABLE" and so forth. This is the most useless thing I have ever 
seen.

It is so annoying _ I had to post it ;).

	Regards,

		Hans


>  BTW,  is the  current MySQL  target (replication,  transactions, ..etc)
>  what typical MySQL users expect? I think  they will lost users who love
>  classic, fast and simple MySQL. The  trade with advanced SQL servers is
>  pretty  full. I don't  understand why  MySQL developers  want to  leave
>  their current possition and want  to fight with PostgreSQL, Oracle, DB2
>  .. etc.
> 
>     Karel
> 


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