X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0FED1DCD9 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:08:05 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 74900-02 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:08:04 -0300 (ADT) Received: from imap.cs.msu.su (imap.cs.msu.su [158.250.10.39]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE65D1DCD0 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:08:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: from cs.msu.su (pc724-lin.cmc.msu.ru [10.3.34.136]) by imap.cs.msu.su (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i3NG81Mt067467; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 20:08:01 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from borz_off@cs.msu.su) Message-ID: <40893F5A.50607@cs.msu.su> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 20:07:54 +0400 From: Alexey Borzov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rod Taylor Cc: Postgresql Advocacy Subject: Re: What can we learn from MySQL? References: <200404230409.i3N49jC02890@candle.pha.pa.us> <1082707709.32307.1127.camel@jeff> <1082730417.95625.41.camel@jester> In-Reply-To: <1082730417.95625.41.camel@jester> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040402, clamav-milter version 0.70a X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200404/154 X-Sequence-Number: 4126 Hi! Rod Taylor wrote: > My present theory is that most users make the decision regarding ease of > use before even installing the software. > > If you look at the MySQL website within 1 or 2 clicks, you know that > there is a gui for queries, a gui for administration, drivers or > interfaces for many programming langauges. They have GIS, Unicode, full > text searching, multi-master replication, ANSI compliance, etc. > > ... > > You don't learn anything about the GUIs (any of them) within the first > couple of clicks. Since many users (even linux users) associate command > lines with difficulty of use, the first impression is that PostgreSQL is > difficult to use. I think that PostgreSQL's "download" page should point to at least * Recommended replication solution (erserver?) * Recommended full-text search solution (tsearch?) * Recommended GUI / web frontend (PGAdmin / phpPgAdmin) * Drivers: ODBC, JDBC, whatever * PostGIS * Banners to put on the website * A description of what to find in the contrib dir If someone makes such a page, I'll promptly add it to the "next-generation" site.