X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807BDD1B498 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:05:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 57081-05 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:05:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ngate.rdw.ru (mail.rdw.ru [195.42.172.4]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0250D1D068 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:05:51 -0300 (ADT) Received: (qmail 17981 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2004 20:05:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rdw.ru) (192.168.0.57) by ngate.rdw.ru with SMTP; 23 Apr 2004 20:05:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 3389 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2004 20:05:52 -0000 Received: from ppp01.rdw.ru (HELO cs.msu.su) ([192.168.0.7]) (envelope-sender ) by rdw.ru (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Apr 2004 20:05:50 -0000 Message-ID: <4089770D.6060306@cs.msu.su> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 00:05:33 +0400 From: Alexey Borzov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: ru, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Berkus Cc: Robert Treat , Rod Taylor , pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] What can we learn from MySQL? References: <200404230409.i3N49jC02890@candle.pha.pa.us> <40893F5A.50607@cs.msu.su> <1082746966.25537.1155.camel@camel> <200404231213.16003.josh@agliodbs.com> In-Reply-To: <200404231213.16003.josh@agliodbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200404/203 X-Sequence-Number: 4307 Hi! Josh Berkus wrote: >>>* Recommended replication solution (erserver?) >>>* Recommended full-text search solution (tsearch?) >>>* Recommended GUI / web frontend (PGAdmin / phpPgAdmin) >>>* Drivers: ODBC, JDBC, whatever >>>* PostGIS >>>* Banners to put on the website >>>* A description of what to find in the contrib dir > > I'm really nervous about pointing to "recommended" solutions where we have > several. I'd rather have links to all mature projects in that category. Okay, s/recommended/mature/ > Replication is actually several different problems demanding several different > solutions. So no one replication solution is going to cover all needs, > ever. Okay, but currently *the* replication solution that's linked from every page of postgresql.org is pgreplication. Which is either dead or just stinks like one. > For GUIs, we have an embarassment of them, and I would not want to be > responsible for telling anyone their project is "not recommended". That's an > effective way of making a lot of enemies in the OSS community. Instead, I > might suggest listing all OSS GUIs in order of popularity -- which still lets > PGAdmin & phpPGAdmin float to the top, but without telling Xpg or PGAccess to > take a flying leap into the void. Who will define "popularity"? Of course, it is possible to just create a page for all the GUIs, but it will require discipline or else it will degenerate to http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/related.html or http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/interfaces.html