X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB75D1B519; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:00:50 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 52251-05; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:00:50 -0300 (ADT) Received: from noon.pghoster.com (noon.pghoster.com [64.246.0.64]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD548D1B4CD; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:00:46 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [66.119.208.2] (helo=metatrontech.com) by noon.pghoster.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BHW8h-00014l-GK; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 18:00:52 -0500 Message-ID: <408AE57B.7080606@metatrontech.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 15:08:59 -0700 From: Chris Travers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruno Wolff III Cc: PostgreSQL-development , PostgreSQL advocacy Subject: Re: [HACKERS] What can we learn from MySQL? References: <200404230409.i3N49jC02890@candle.pha.pa.us> <17951.24.91.171.78.1082752617.squirrel@mail.mohawksoft.com> <20040424171001.GA19570@wolff.to> In-Reply-To: <20040424171001.GA19570@wolff.to> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050703050102010408070008" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - noon.pghoster.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - postgresql.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - metatrontech.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_RFCI, RCVD_IN_SORBS X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200404/237 X-Sequence-Number: 4209 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050703050102010408070008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bruno Wolff III wrote: >On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 16:36:57 -0400, > pgsql@mohawksoft.com wrote: > > >>Ease of use is VERY important, but few suggestions that address this are >>ever really accepted. Yes, focusing on the functionality is the primary >>concern, but "how" you set it up and deploy it is VERY important. You guys >>need to remember, people are coming from a world where MySQL, Oracle, and >>MSSQL all have nice setup programs. >> >> > >"nice" must be in the eye of the beholder. I have used Oracle's installer >to install a client and was not amused by it need hundreds of megabtyes >to do a client install. > > > I second that. I have not found *anybody* who has used Oracle's installer to install the actual database server on Linux or Solaris who has described their installation proceedure as either "nice" or "easy." In fact even reading the installation isntructions is enough to give you second thoughts.... MS SQL does have a nice installer, however, as do most binary open source products for Windows. I am completely confident that PostgreSQL for Windows, when it arrives, will have a nice GUI-based installer. Best Wishes, Chris Travers Metatron Technology Consulting --------------050703050102010408070008 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf8; name="chris.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="chris.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Chris Travers n:Travers;Chris email;internet:chris@metatrontech.com x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard --------------050703050102010408070008--