X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7190BD1B582; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:39:29 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 55623-10; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:39:29 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hosting.commandprompt.com (128.commandprompt.com [207.173.200.128]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC64DD1B445; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:39:26 -0300 (ADT) Received: from commandprompt.com (dsl093-038-087.pdx1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.38.87]) (authenticated) by hosting.commandprompt.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i3SKd0K28164; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:39:00 -0700 Message-ID: <4090165D.5070107@commandprompt.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:38:53 -0700 From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "scott.marlowe" Cc: Andrew Payne , Bruce Momjian , PostgreSQL-development , PostgreSQL advocacy Subject: Re: [HACKERS] What can we learn from MySQL? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200404/288 X-Sequence-Number: 4260 >>Does anyone know of an open source project that *has* successfully displaced >>a market of mature, established products WITHOUT a commercial entity >>providing marketing, support & direction? > > > gcc? Nope.... most big houses will use Intel/Borland/Vc++ or whatever comes with Solaris. In fact, I can not think of a single project that has displaced a commercial one, without market force behind it. Linux won't do it without RedHat/Novell. I would even dare say that Novell will be that driving force, not RedHat. Even Apache has an entity... It actually became much more popular once that entity came to existence (even though it was a 501). Another look at Linux shows that it's popularity amongst the washed masses didn't really soar until Big Blue (IBM) starting pushing it. PHP might be an interesting thought, but ASP is used more widely as is Java for commercial stuff. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings