X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290A1D1E926 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:54:25 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27231-01 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:54:04 -0300 (ADT) Received: from noon.pghoster.com (noon.pghoster.com [64.246.0.64]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CD5D1E791 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:54:02 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [66.119.208.244] (helo=travelamericas.com) by noon.pghoster.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BJGfb-0007J2-DW; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:54:04 -0500 Message-ID: <4091432B.40909@travelamericas.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:02:19 -0700 From: Chris Travers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruno Wolff III Cc: Greg Sabino Mullane , pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Subject: Re: What can we learn from MySQL? References: <20040429044848.GA22881@wolff.to> In-Reply-To: <20040429044848.GA22881@wolff.to> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - noon.pghoster.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - postgresql.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - travelamericas.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_RFCI, RCVD_IN_SORBS X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200404/297 X-Sequence-Number: 4269 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > >And more support questions get asked taking time away from development. >For companies the net balance is probably in postgres' favor on average. >However, getting individuals to use postgres who have no background >in databases may be a net minus. Hopefully that won't happen. It will >be interesting to see what happens to the support lists after the >windows port is available. > > I don't see support questions as being that much of a detractor. Maybe if it happens, we can start a Pgsql-newbie's list and initially feature those who provide commercial support for the RDBMS? Understand that everyone has to start somewhere, and having a fresh perspective on it from a newbie may help make a better project. We just need a little more insulation between newbie support and development (though the lack of such insulation is a general strength of open source software). I personally think that the way to do this is to create a good set of documentation which will help newbies with no RDBMS experience begin to understand the basics of PostgreSQL. For better or worse, MySQL owes most of their success to the newbies. Best Wishes, Chris Travers