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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 22:14:46 +0400
From: Alexey Borzov <borz_off@cs.msu.su>
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To: Robert Treat <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net>
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Subject: Re: Applying new design
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Hi,

Robert Treat wrote:
>>As usual, the results are available at http://alexey.beta.postgresql.org/
>>
>>I also took the opportunity to create a simpler and more consistent 
>>navigation (although it's not yet finished).
>>
>>Praises, comments and texts to replace "blah-blah" are most welcome.
> 
> If it's not too much trouble can we stick with the original navigation
> for now? I hate to change the navigation without actually doing some
> real site re-architecture.

If I add all the stuff which is currently in the left and right columns to the 
right, it will take 5+ screens to scroll.

Therefore, I suppose "What is", "Licence", "FAQ", "Case studies" stuff should go 
to the "Welcome" part of the home page and "Quick Help", "Contact the 
webmasters", "Report a bug" will go to the (currently missing) "Support" page.

> Some thoughts on the current stuff though... can we reduce or even
> better eliminate the margins on both sides? They are a waste of screen
> real estate we could do without. 

They can definitely be reduced a bit.

> Also make sure that downloads points to the ftp mirrors page, and that
> mirrors points to the www mirrors page, right now they both point to the
> ftp mirrors. 

You are wrong, they do point to different pages. Though the mirrors are outdated 
in the DB beta site uses and it's difficult to tell. :)

> We also need to move the language preference up to the top of the
> screen, i think a drop down where you currently have the search box
> would probably work. 

This is a waste of space. Bear in mind that the actual visitors will face a 
static mirror of the site and the language will be selected by Apache's content 
negotiation *on every page request*.

> speaking of, good move making the search link into a search box, but can
> you move it back into the black navigation menu by any chance? 

Makes sense, I'll try doing this.

> Can you replace the what is? text with the following:
> "PostgreSQL is a highly-scalable, sql compliant, open source
> object-relational database management system. With more than 15 years of
> development history, it is quickly becoming the defacto database for
> enterprise level open source solutions."  (yes, it's marketing fluff,
> but we need to say who we are and what we do right on the main page)

You mean the "Welcome" part?

> PgFoundry text should read "A home for PostgreSQL related projects where
> users can find additional software and modules for PostgreSQL and
> developers can take advantage of free tools like Bug tracking, CVS, ftp
> space and much more."
> 
> then change the Gborg text to read "The precursor to the current
> pgfoundry website, you can still find a lot of great software under
> active development at gborg"

OK, will do.