X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B2D3A3D49 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:07:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02106-04 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:07:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ngate.rdw.ru (mail.rdw.ru [195.42.172.4]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37343A1D88 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:07:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 1012 invoked by uid 50004); 3 Nov 2004 11:07:44 -0000 Received: from 192.168.0.57 by ngate.rdw.ru (envelope-from , uid 100) with qmail-scanner-1.23 ( Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.57):. Processed in 0.046878 secs); 03 Nov 2004 11:07:44 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: borz_off@cs.msu.su via ngate.rdw.ru X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.23 (Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.57):. Processed in 0.046878 secs) Received: from senoval.rdw.ru ([192.168.0.57]) (envelope-sender ) by ngate.rdw.ru (qmail-ldap-1.03) with compressed SMTP for ; 3 Nov 2004 11:07:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 14642 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2004 11:07:44 -0000 Received: from ppp01.rdw.ru (HELO [192.168.0.7]) ([192.168.0.7]) (envelope-sender ) by senoval.rdw.ru (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Nov 2004 11:07:43 -0000 Message-ID: <4188BBBE.5040601@cs.msu.su> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 14:06:38 +0300 From: Alexey Borzov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: ru, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joshua D. Drake" Cc: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] PostgreSQL.org Design Proposal References: <200410291003.40276.josh@agliodbs.com> <41827D2A.3030505@commandprompt.com> <41875C47.5010504@cs.msu.su> <41876C81.2040007@commandprompt.com> In-Reply-To: <41876C81.2040007@commandprompt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200411/20 X-Sequence-Number: 5669 Hi, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > I am sorry, did you have an entry in the contest that placed? No, but I maintain several well-downloaded OS PHP projects. > Well there may actually be a good reason for this. > > Well I am sure Gavin isn't suffering from the translation of queries > issue but there is a lot of good reasons to abstract the DB API. > > The product isn't even 1.0 yet and very few people are using it. If you > are unhappy with it, why not donate some resources > and help make it a better product? Why are you behaving so protectively? I am already contributing to the project, by reviewing it and giving pointers to possible future fixes and enhancements. Besides, if you want a project to ever reach 1.0 and have a lot of users, you have to consider architectural decisions in advance.