X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFBE3A3F22 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 16:40:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 38303-10 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 16:40:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.227]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7ACD3A2B3A for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 16:40:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from unknown (HELO jupiter.black-lion.info) (janwieck@68.80.245.191 with login) by smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2004 16:40:32 -0000 Received: from [172.21.8.18] (ismtp.afilias.com [216.217.55.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by jupiter.black-lion.info (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iA8GeU94094105; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:40:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from JanWieck@Yahoo.com) Message-ID: <418FA179.70408@Yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:40:25 -0500 From: Jan Wieck User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Lane Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , Justin Clift , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] pg_autovacuum is nice ... but ... References: <20041103155855.O82047@ganymede.hub.org> <41895BDA.1090903@postgresql.org> <20041103201625.S82047@ganymede.hub.org> <19430.1099533223@sss.pgh.pa.us> <418AA915.7010903@postgresql.org> <20041104182322.D21566@ganymede.hub.org> <6789.1099608272@sss.pgh.pa.us> In-Reply-To: <6789.1099608272@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL X-Spam-Level: * X-Archive-Number: 200411/303 X-Sequence-Number: 60875 On 11/4/2004 5:44 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > "Marc G. Fournier" writes: >> Moved to -hackers where this belongs :) > >> On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, Justin Clift wrote: >>> Would making max_fsm_relations and max_fsm_pages dynamically update >>> themselves whilst PostgreSQL runs be useful? > > Possibly, but it isn't happening in the foreseeable future, for the same > reason that we don't auto-update shared_buffers and the other shared > memory sizing parameters: we can't resize shared memory on the fly. > >> I'm not sure if I like this one too much ... but it would be nice if >> something like this triggered a warning in the logs, maybe a feature of >> pg_autovacuum itself? > > autovacuum would probably be a reasonable place to put it. We don't > currently have any good way for autovacuum to get at the information, > but I suppose that an integrated autovacuum daemon could do so. Don't know why this must be an "integrated" autovacuum. Can't the info about the FSM usage be presented as system views? Jan -- #======================================================================# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # #================================================== JanWieck@Yahoo.com #