X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8753A4A78 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:41:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72784-06 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:41:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosting.commandprompt.com (128.commandprompt.com [207.173.200.128]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096F53A4A19 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:41:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.51] (dsl093-038-087.pdx1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.38.87]) (authenticated bits=0) by hosting.commandprompt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iAJGf8f2022141; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:41:08 -0800 Message-ID: <419E2220.4080208@commandprompt.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:41:04 -0800 From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Treat Cc: Josh Berkus , pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Vote on Omar Design References: <200411181953.10646.josh@agliodbs.com> <1100882015.389.98.camel@camel> In-Reply-To: <1100882015.389.98.camel@camel> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030204040300060609070608" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200411/250 X-Sequence-Number: 5981 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030204040300060609070608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Why do I feel I am in the middle of some political power grab? Omar has > been submitting patches which are being reviewed and getting committed > so things seem ok there. I have already laid out a case for problems in > Lukacz's design that I don't see anyone interested in addressing, but by > the same token I still have not seen a "stretchy" version of Omar's > design which we have said we need to see before we can swap. These calls > for voting are just hand-waving IMHO. I don't think they are hand-waving. I think they are let's get off our butts and get a modern, usable design in place. I also don't think it has anything to do with what people think is or isn't going on in terms of hard work as much as a want to have a new website design in place before 8.0. Basically, all the designs that have been presented are light years (at least the versions I have seen) past what the community has now. They may not be perfect, but so what? Let's get something pleasant to look at in place. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > > Robert Treat -- Command Prompt, Inc., home of PostgreSQL Replication, and plPHP. Postgresql support, programming shared hosting and dedicated hosting. +1-503-667-4564 - jd@commandprompt.com - http://www.commandprompt.com Mammoth PostgreSQL Replicator. Integrated Replication for PostgreSQL --------------030204040300060609070608 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="jd.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jd.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Joshua D. Drake n:Drake;Joshua D. org:Command Prompt, Inc. adr:;;PO Box 215;Cascade Locks;Oregon;97014;USA email;internet:jd@commandprompt.com title:Consultant tel;work:503-667-4564 tel;fax:503-210-0334 note:Command Prompt, Inc. is the largest and oldest US based commercial PostgreSQL support provider. We provide the only commercially viable integrated PostgreSQL replication solution, but also custom programming, and support. We authored the book Practical PostgreSQL, the procedural language plPHP, and adding trigger capability to plPerl. x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.commandprompt.com/ version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030204040300060609070608--