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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 07:01:47 -0800
From: "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
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To: Robert Treat <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: elein <elein@varlena.com>, "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org>,
	Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>, pgsql-www@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: merging advocacy and "overview"
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>>You would begrudge me a 1.25 inch logo for bothering to write 4 or 5 pages
>>a week of alternative documentation in hopes of spreading understanding of PostgreSQL
>>as well as hosting the site?  We are not so petty as a group.
>>    
>>
>
>Wow, given how quickly you jump to personal attacks apparently we are so
>petty a group. I don't think anyone here is simple enough to not realize
>the advantages of driving lots of traffic directly to your companies
>website, so lets not pretend otherwise, ok?
>  
>

Woah... maybe we should just write both of these responses off as a
misuderstanding :)

Elein, to be fair no one is begrudging you anything. We are just
trying to determine what the guidelines for things are.


>>Contribution is about content not logos.  I think I deserve to be
>>on the corporate sponsor page.  Obviously I have not been a fly-by-night
>>contributor.
>>    
>>
Nobody has said yet that you won't be. However, a gentler approach
may be a better way. I don't think anyone here thinks you are
a fly by night contributor.


>Contribution is about giving away, no matter what the content. Some
>people think my$ql is a free database too, but like general bits, it is
>completely owned and controlled by a single company, and it's future
>currently depends primarily on the best interests of the company before
>that of the community.
>
The above is a good point. Varlena have you thought
of making General Bits a PgFoundry project. I know it
sounds weird, but you could release each "file" and have
a separate web page.

Would seem a more community driven project at that point?

I am just throwing ideas here at this point.


> Now some people are ok with this type of thing,
>but there are other ways to do things. Look at ecpg, one of our most
>popular packages that is primarily maintained by Michael Meskes. Now he
>could certainly host the package on the Credativ website and reap all
>the benefits of driving traffic his way, but he doesn't do that at all.
>Now there is a company that needs more recognition. 
>  
>

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake


>
>Robert Treat
>  
>


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